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Is Newt Gingrich the Real Deal?
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Posted on 11/12/2011 8:54:58 AM PST by Java4Jay

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To: Sola Veritas

Thank you for your post.


161 posted on 11/12/2011 8:17:29 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: DustyMoment
""Newt’s record is one of picking political expediency over Conservative principals every single time."

"Examples??""

Here are three quick examples:

1. Man made Global Warming
2. DeDe Scozzafava
3. Amnesty

162 posted on 11/12/2011 8:42:25 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Java4Jay

One thing we all forget is that once a fellow is inside the White Hut, he has to play by different rules than those during the campaign and during the stupid without exceptions debates. He’ll break the (forgotten now) promises, he’ll quiet down, harsh fracking realities of the world are upon him. Is Obomba now the stalinist he was prior to the election, and that he still is in his cheating heart? Hardly, even if he tries. So in the end, realistically, we, or the CPUSA, get the milquetoast of the dude in the debates. Sure, as we are seeing, the damage can be more than enough, but it still isn’t what Bill Ayers and Chairman Bob Avakian would love to see. Even Ron Paul (what’s his last name?) would have to become somewhat reasonable in the once in the WH. That old ‘warmonger’ Goldwater would have to too! Choose on the character and not on the cliched specifics they recite to sway you during these “debates”.


163 posted on 11/12/2011 8:57:23 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Java4Jay

Newt is the real Socialist impostor; is that what you mean?


164 posted on 11/12/2011 8:58:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: CGalen

>> “Newt is more real than obama.” <<

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If you’re talking about being a socialist thug, its about a tie between them.


165 posted on 11/12/2011 9:00:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Nothing like this am sure, 7 Lies in less than 2 Minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naKL-jxUJoc


166 posted on 11/12/2011 9:09:52 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay
"We have a divided government with nothing getting done to prevent our Nation’s collapse."

And Newt was 100% complicit in causing the collapse. His actions in congress were inexcusable. He took money in exchange for bringing about the economic collapse of the United States. Don't even get me started on his private life. No sale.
167 posted on 11/12/2011 9:21:04 PM PST by CowboyJay (Yes we Cain.)
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To: CowboyJay

Can Newt overcome the negatives of his past? Would he be able to overcome the vicious attacks from the Obama Media Group that would make their attack on Herman Cain look like a walk in the park? Newt answered the question best – as he was considering a run for the presidency:

“I believe in a forgiving God, and the American people will have to decide whether that is their primary concern,” Gingrich said. “If the primary concern of the American people is my past, my candidacy would be irrelevant. If the primary concern of the American people is the future … that’s a debate I’ll be happy to have.”

That’s also a debate millions of Americans would love to see: Newt Gingrich vs. Barack Obama – mano-a-mano. No holds barred. Last man standing. Poor Barack. Damn.

If it does come down to Newt vs. Obama a year from now, the question that Americans must ask themselves – and answer – is this:

Are you more concerned with Newt Gingrich’s past, or Barack Obama’s future?


168 posted on 11/13/2011 3:09:32 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: federal__reserve
all those things you listed dont concern me , this does.

btw END THE FED!

169 posted on 11/13/2011 5:56:00 AM PST by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: Java4Jay
"Are you more concerned with Newt Gingrich’s past, or Barack Obama’s future?"

That is what's known in the business as a false dichotomy. There may be two choices if it comes down to Gingrich vs Obama, but the outcomes of those two choices are more or less identical.

If Newt's the GOP nominee next November, America already lost the election.
170 posted on 11/13/2011 8:33:51 AM PST by CowboyJay (Yes we Cain.)
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To: Java4Jay

No Newt, no way. Just another establishment RINO, and an immoral despicable creature. I will not vote for him anymore than Romney or Obama.


171 posted on 11/13/2011 10:13:24 AM PST by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,perverts,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: 09Patriot

That is also a major concern. I listed what came right off the top of my head. I can write a small book why Newt would turn out to be another McBush.


172 posted on 11/13/2011 12:09:34 PM PST by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in half a century.)
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To: CowboyJay

No question Newt is better than Obama by a very large degree.
But he has taken too many liberal positions in the past.
See my post above in this thread. He is essentially a McBush.


173 posted on 11/13/2011 12:12:17 PM PST by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in half a century.)
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To: federal__reserve
"No question Newt is better than Obama by a very large degree."

I question the degree to which the country would be better off under Obama than Gingrich. Newt's essential problem is that he has no ethical core. He's also intelligent, which makes him vulnerable to rationalizations. If there is monetary gain or media attention in it for him, he can and will patch together some esoteric self-delusion to justify literally any bad policy no matter how damaging it may be for the country. He has left a trail of personal, political, and economic wreckage a mile wide over the course of his career, and can probably rationalize every bit of it away as unavoidable in his pointy little head.

Newt would have been an incredible criminal defense attorney IMO, but he'd be a certain disaster as POTUS. He'd give bipartisan cover to nearly every bit of the progressive agenda. We can't afford that right now.
174 posted on 11/13/2011 1:00:05 PM PST by CowboyJay (Yes we Cain.)
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To: Sola Veritas

So National Security is your issue?

What is the most pressing foreign policy issue of our day?

Iran’s attempt to get nukes and missiles to delver them.

So what do we do? Invade a 4th country? Ignore it? Start a covert war with Iran? Help the Gulf Arabs and the Israelis get nukes also?

OR Do we make forceful clear statement, as Cain would, that any attack on Israel will be viewed as an attack on the USA.

Then we do back up that statement, as Cain says, an build up our system of naval warships (i.e the Aegis ships Cain is talking about) that have the ability to knock down any Iranian missiles in flight thus giving our side an ability to neutralize the Iranian threat and protect our regional interests, without starting yet another war or adding to the destabilizing of the region.

Can we really just rely on Mutual Assured Destruction to Contain the leaders of an Iranian Death Cult that believes that a massive act of suicide will usher in the rule of the Hidden Mahdi?

Cain is the only one who looked at the real problem with Iran and said “here are the solutions”


175 posted on 11/13/2011 1:17:12 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie; All

“Cain is the only one who looked at the real problem with Iran and said ‘here are the solutions’” I didn’t like Cain’s “solutions”, in my opinion they won’t work. We have to be willing to invade and conquer Iran....Newt said he would. Notice also, that Newt had praise for Cain’s ideas and others.

I cannot be any clearer than this. I AM NOT a Newt supporter/booster/chearleader. He has serious flaws of character and he has not be consistent. However, when I look at things dispasionately, I realize he is the only person with Gravitas to sit in the big chair and protect this country from foreign & domestic threats. That is my opinion....I could be wrong. It is only a opinion, so stop trying to preach the “Gospel of Cain” to me, because I’m not buying it. IF economic danger was the only threat, I would lean more in Cain’s direction. I actually like the man “Cain” more than I like the man “Newt.” But honesty tells me I want someone more seasoned in the big chair.

As I stated in a previous post, I am a moral/social conservative first. I would prefer a candidate pledged to restore DADT and get homosexuals out of the military. I would prefer a candidate that will help get a constitutional ammendment to end legal abortion. I’m NOT going to get those things. So, knowing that isn’t going to happend, I have to go with my third priority...national defense. Newt “talks” the “best” on this issue and mirrors my views. So, I will vote for him in the primary.

I’m NOT going to beat drum for him, or put him on a pedestal as so many here do with their pick. He is simply my pick. Also, I like his graciousness to his competitors...he at least acts like a statesman.


176 posted on 11/13/2011 1:48:22 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I am from Texas. There are things that happened with Perry that I DO NOT like, but I think he is warming up to the ability to debate. I was very impressed with him at the last debate. He has some very good ideas in his platform and I believe that it is not time to drop him as a possibility for endorsement.


177 posted on 11/15/2011 1:07:36 PM PST by sthtexaslady
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