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To: dynachrome; dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; ...

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http://ecatnews.com/?p=1144

Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:

1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,

2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,

3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos

4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,

5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,

6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,

7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum
-—— or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,

8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam;
-—— certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device
-—— and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan

9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion
-—— to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat,
-—— to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam

[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars
-—— until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table
-—— because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes
-—— and knows that they will just take his word for it
-—— and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]

10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out

then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 5:45:46 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos

That's a pretty good list of Leonardo Corp Personnel.

28 posted on 11/11/2011 5:58:24 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:

1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,

This is so common, they have a special word for them: Shills.
2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,
This is very common for such cons. See:
3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos
The men mentioned are with the University of Bologna. Note that the University of Bologna has released a PRESS RELEASE stating that neither the University nor any of it's scientists have been involved with any of Rossi's experiments.
4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,

5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,

Here you are trying to confuse the issue by insinuating that if there is any validity to LENR, then Rossi must be valid as well. It is entirely possible that Rossi is a con man, using "cold fusion" as the basis of his frauds.
6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,
Dennis Bushnell is a scientist for NASA, and has "said some nice things" about Rossi's device. Of course, NASA determined that Rossi had not "proven his extraordinary claim".
7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum -—— or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, 8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; -—— certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device -—— and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan 9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion -—— to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, -—— to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam
Since Rossi and several of his former asssociates have been convicted (and served prison time) several times for fraud, it isn't all that unreasonable that they might be interested in getting in on a scam.
[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars -—— until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table -—— because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes -—— and knows that they will just take his word for it -—— and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]
There is still no evidence, other than Rossi's word, that there even was a customer.
10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out
Your buddy, Jed Rothwell, refused to attend one of Rossi's dog & pony shows, because Rossi wouldn't allow him to bring his own test equipment. Rossi has chosen his audience carefully, especially after Steven Krivit attended a demo, and discovered that Rossi's E-Cat wasn't actually doing what Rossi claimed.
then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.

39 posted on 11/11/2011 6:29:43 PM PST by Johnny B.
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