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To: Kevmo
You’re way off, and you’re headed down a track that is obviously blazed by your emotions. You won’t even look at the scientific evidence because you’re all wrapped up in the appearance of a con artist. You simply cannot see past it. And that is not due to your logical reasoning, it is due to your emotions.

Seriously? You should know by now that my skepticism of Rossi's claims is based completely in science. It is not up to me to prove that the non-scientist Rossi's claims of having achieved transmutation of elements in a way incompatible with the laws of physics; it is up to Rossi to show that he has. I've even discussed the nature of the easily obtained evidence that would support such a claim. And he has shown nothing yet.

As far as feelings go, when I see someone whose behavior patterns are objectively similar to those displayed by con artists in the past--that is, e.g., I can read that a past con artist always had some explanation as to why his "invention" could not be tested by an independent party, and Rossi also does not allow testing by an independent party--then it is safe to say that I have a feeling that Rossi will, in fact, engage in another behavior that is consistent with that of con men. I cannot have objective evidence of an action that will occur in the future.

That last sentence actually exists in a bit of a grey area. A few months ago, the claims were that this device was going to replace all known methods of power generation, and that power plant operators might as well start dismantling their plants, since they were about to be made obsolete. But now, the claim is only that the device is a heater, with power generation still in the future. So it does almost appear that Rossi is already engaged in the behavior of promising that the big breakthrough is just around the corner.

145 posted on 11/16/2011 4:59:27 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

Seriously?
***Yes, seriously. It is obvious that your objection to this development comes from emotion rather than critical & rational thinking.

It is not up to me to prove that the non-scientist Rossi’s claims of having achieved transmutation of elements in a way incompatible with the laws of physics; it is up to Rossi to show that he has.
***Rossi would be claiming no more than what several other LENR Researchers have seen.
Mizuno, T., Nuclear Transmutation: The Reality of Cold Fusion. 1998: Infinite Energy Press.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search?mode=books&tag=thedesmoinescity&keyword=Nuclear+Transmutation+Cold+Fusion

A few months ago, the claims were that this device was going to replace all known methods of power generation, and that power plant operators might as well start dismantling their plants, since they were about to be made obsolete.
***Grandiosity appears to be part of the process of introducing new technology. The interesting thing here is, if this is real, those claims are correct.

But now, the claim is only that the device is a heater, with power generation still in the future.
***Rossi has been claiming all along that the first generation of ecats would be heaters.

So it does almost appear that Rossi is already engaged in the behavior of promising that the big breakthrough is just around the corner.
***If it “almost appears” to be the case then your writing would be far more emotionally cautious. Instead, you get a feeling that he’s a con artist and you go with it. In the field of LENR, we are lucky to see a good demo once every year or 2. Rossi has given 10 demos in the last year. His big breakthrough has already taken place, in that he got a customer to put cash on the barrel head for a LENR device. No one else even claims this. Now the ultraskeptics claim that there isn’t even a customer. The more customers there are, the wider the conspiracy theory becomes, until that theory pops like a balloon.


151 posted on 11/16/2011 9:41:06 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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