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Posted on 11/11/2011 4:42:22 PM PST by Johnny B.
E-Cat Technology by Andrea Rossi of Leonardo Corporation
Yeah, right after I posted that I realized that 1 MW was just a bit huge for a house! See my post #26.
Is "he" a "business partner" as well???He's Rossi's web designer. LINK.
At the very least, they have a business relationship, which makes any "stories" Allan publishes suspect.
But Krivit's stuff is all "gospel", right??
But Krivit's stuff is all "gospel", right??Compared to Stirling D. Allan, certainly.
What I have found, based on reviewing everything I could find, was that Krivit was prepared to give Rossi the benefit of the doubt. He was a first-hand witness of Rossi's E-Cat in operation, and while observing it, discovered that Rossi's device was not doing what Rossi was claiming (it was percolating out liquid water, and not generating much steam at all).
After that, Krivit reported his findings. Rossi and his fans (including you and Kevmo) have been demonizing him ever since. Rossi now refers to him as a "snake" (which I assume is more venomous an insult in Italian [pun intended]).
Meanwhile, Stirling D. Allan has never found a scam that he didn't fall for hook, line and sinker. His other "big" story at the moment is that President Obama has teleported to Mars. Are you willing to accept that story on his say so?
And here's a story by Allan, which glowingly endorses a con man's "perpetual motion" car. LINK.
Allan is, at best, extraordinarily gullible. The fact that he endorses Rossi does not add any credibility to Rossi's claims.
That is Krivit's HYPOTHESIS, which he is selling with all his might. Unfortunately, he does NOT have the scientific credentials to make those kinds of judgements. And the data from the other demos contradicts his position.
"After that, Krivit reported his findings. Rossi and his fans (including you and Kevmo) have been demonizing him ever since."
Yup, and he DESERVES the demonization. He switched from journalist to advocate. Even-handed reporting is not to be found in his blathers.
Meanwhile, Stirling D. Allan has never found a scam that he didn't fall for hook, line and sinker. His other "big" story at the moment is that President Obama has teleported to Mars. Are you willing to accept that story on his say so?
Lord, the man posted the response from the NI manager confirming it. What more verification do you want??
"And here's a story by Allan, which glowingly endorses a con man's "perpetual motion" car. LINK."
Irrelevant.
"Allan is, at best, extraordinarily gullible. The fact that he endorses Rossi does not add any credibility to Rossi's claims."
Which has precisely nothing to do with the truth or falsity of the National Instruments connection.
It’s self-evident. Even if LENR turns out to be true, that doesn’t mean that everyone claiming to be doing it is being truthful.
***That’s real nice. Except that is not what I said.
Kevmo: he was familiar with the signs that traditionally signal a scam artist at work .
JB: Yes, just about everything Rossi has done shows the signs of a scam artist at work.
***Then how is it that Levi, who “he was familiar with the signs that traditionally signal a scam artist at work” came to the conclusion that Rossi was not scamming Unibo?
No, just in case one or 2 of them end up getting pulled, then I know what to write the next time.
Regarding the long list of “observers”. Note that no one who was not one of Rossi’s partners were allowed to do any actual testing of any aspect of the dog & pony show. They were allowed to watch a bunch of pipes and boxes just sit there.
***Sure, on the Oct 28 demo, because it was for the customer’s benefit not others. But the prior demos there was plenty of milling around, dismantling the piece afterwards, weighing, etc.
Then all you need to do is find his investors who are supposedly being fleeced.
By shills who are now part of Rossi's company. Maybe that explains how they got away with using the bathroom scale and recording measurements with pencil and paper.
I think I'll go into the carpentry business and claim that Home Depot endorses my work because I'm a customer.
I think Levi is more concerned about scoring big with Rossi's scam than he is about his university.
Ain't buyin' that, bubba. And certainly not true of Focardi, who has not much longer in this world. What's his motive?? If it "is" a scam, then his name is sullied forever. Likewise Stremenos, who has even more reputation to lose.
The "they're all in on it" meme is just ridiculous.
Most people have their price. And these people who are supposed to be concerned about their reputations obviously had no reservations about being associated with Rossi who has been convicted of crimes for his past business practices.
Or perhaps, being Italian (or Greek, in the case of Stremenos) themselves, they have a better knowledge of the facts of Rossi's "criminal acts" than either you or I, and have decided that they aren't relevant.
But the RATIONAL (unlike psychoskeptic logic) thing is simply that Rossi's achievement is real. For it to "be a scam" would require Rossi to have suborned several hundred people (all the participants in the demos, all the folks associated with Defkalion, the principles of Ampenergo, and heaven only knows how many more.....and that all those people have managed to keep the scam secret all this time).
Sorry....that notion is simply nuts.
In Kevmos’s words, all the demos were non-scientific and crappy. Most of the observers were passive and the ones who weren’t mostly have turned up on Rossi’s payroll, thus with a major conflict of interest. Defkalion is an unknown company without a history. Ampenergo is an unknown company with a neglected Wordpress template for a website.
• So, what should be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets but doesn’t offend you to the point that you get it removed?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62
This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.
55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. But if it offends you to the point that you get it removed then I’ll have to come up with some other ‘ignore button’ post.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62
This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.
55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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