Penn State's Joe Paterno gets what he deserves

SF Chronicle ^ | Nov. 10, 2011 | Scott Ostler

[Colofornian]

Folks, this is Joe Paterno's legacy.

E-mails jump into my inbox defending Paterno...

I won't remember what Paterno did, but what he didn't do. What he didn't do is what got him fired...

Firing Joe Paterno doesn't fix everything, but it's a great start.

[NewinTexsas]

Or you can just tell me how Paterno 'protected' him if everyone else knew Sandusky was a molester in 1998, and had left the coaching staff in 1999.

What would you do if a member of your staff was raping little boys?

[terycarl]

But some of the bile directed at him is bordering on ridiculous - its a good old fashioned media pile on & its a shame

you've got that right...a homosexual coverup of the highest order. When I worked for the Indiana D.O.C., I signed forms indicating what I had the authority to do in certain instances. In every instance, I was required to notify someone at a certain level of authority, depending on circumstances. In no circumstance was I authorized to notify nor to give information to someone on the outside. There was a stipulation that I was not required to break any laws, but a very direct order was to be followed. I would have followed those guidelines, but I would have also payed very close attention as to what steps had been taken concerning any incident. I am happy to say that there were indeed several incidents, and all were handled to my satisfaction.

[Paladin2]

"Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile Foundation, a non-profit organization aimed to serve underprivileged youths, was "pimping out young boys to rich (Penn State) donors." -allegedly"

You can look it up.

[NewinTexsas]

Move on. Even Joe admits he didn’t do the right thing.

[NewinTexsas]

PA law gives specific permission for non-company officers to go directly to the outside if they desire.

[skeeter]

What would you do if a member of your staff was raping little boys?

If Sandusky was guilty of 'raping little boys' in 1998, why was he not arrested and jailed?

Right now I believe Paterno is getting pretty harsh treatment, but I can change my mind. Do you know the answer?

[Colofornian]

Right, that's when I'd rub my eyes, say "what ? I don't understand. Some kind of sex ?" Then I'd be tired and just say whatever and let's go out for a beer on the way home, this has been a long day. Oh, and by the way, don't ever bother me with that thing you were talking about, we're not communicating, let's just forget it and get back to football. I wonder what the wife made for dinner tonight. Hey can you get the lights ?

First of all, you don't need to make things up out of thin air when the 23-page Grand Jury Presentment is available. Grand Jury Presentment

Just go to pp. 6-7.

#1...this didn't happen on the night of a game...'twas the first weekend in March.
#2...No convo took place that night...even tho McQueary witnessed it. Instead he called Paterno Sat. a.m. and then went over to Paterno's house.

Other than that, nice laissez-faire attitude you presented as to how YOU might react if an eyewitness reported to you a sexual assault upon a kid.

Do the world around you a favor, Peter. Don't coach other people's kids or put yourself in a volunteer position overseeing them. Not sure if such a carefree personality would be a good mix protecting pre-teen kids in today's world. P. 7 says there

[skeeter]

Move on. Even Joe admits he didn’t do the right thing.

So did I. What do you think I was saying?

[NewinTexsas]

If Sandusky was guilty of 'raping little boys' in 1998, why was he not arrested and jailed? Right now I believe Paterno is getting pretty harsh treatment, but I can change my mind. Do you know the answer?

SEX RING COVERUP.

Consider this hypothetical. Your son went to a Sandusky camp, he took him to the PSU football facilities as a special treat (what kid wouldn't want to go there). While there they played some ball or whatever, wrestled and then showered together. This occurred in 2004. Now the grand jury report comes out and your son comes to you and says that he was a victim and he was raped by Sandusky. How would you feel about Paterno now knowing that he had it in his power to stop Sandusky and didn't?

[perez24]

I too was thinking of the eerie similarities between Paterno and the bishops.

I also find it hard to believe that no reporters ever or followed up on a rumor that maybe...just maybe...there was something not quite right with Sandusky. The guy didn’t just wake up one day and decide to start molesting little boys...he’s probably been doing it his whole life and yet NOBODY knew anything?

THis is probably way out left field but I heard a sports talk guy who really really enjoys conspiracy theories about sports saying “What if McQuerey (sp?) was also raped by Sandusky when he was a teen?” Apparently it’s geographically possible but, like I said, it’s a conspiracy theory.

I think there’s so much more disgusting information that will be coming out that a lot of us are going to be shocked and nauseated.

[NewinTexsas]

So did I. What do you think I was saying?

You were posting that Joe had no cupability in this whole thing which is flat out false.

[skeeter]

He wasn't working for Paterno in 2004. He left the coaching staff in 1999. He was using campus facilities from that point on. Paterno was told about the shower incident in 2002. He reported it to his management and to campus security.

He didn't report it to outside authorities. THAT is why he deserves criticism.

This is what we know for certain.

He didn't 'enable' pedophelia, as you imply. You should be more careful making such charges.

[dfwgator]

He didn't 'enable' pedophelia, as you imply.

Did Paterno not have the power to put it to stop if he wanted to, even if it meant harming the program?

[skeeter]

Put a stop to what?

Seriously, I'd like to know. I have no reason to protect Paterno, but I wonder why everyone is carrying on like the old guy himself is a pedophile. If there is evidence that Paterno knew Sandusky was raping boys but didn't report it, I would've thought he'd be charged with the athletic & finance directors.

If you know anything I don't please share.

[Paladin2]

All I can say is that I hope MM is not a perv too.

With some pics of his buds of late, now I have my doubts.

This looks somewhat queer to me.

[NewinTexsas]

He didn't 'enable' pedophelia, as you imply. You should be more careful making such charges.

Whatever. He knew and he didn't stop Sandusky. Every boy that was raped after Paterno knew (at least as early as 1998) is a boy that wouldn't have been raped if Paterno had stood up like a man.

[dfwgator]

Did he ever even go up to Sandusky, a personal friend he worked with for 30 years, and confront him about it?

[wareagle7295]

[skeeter]

I would hope so. But we really don’t know what the nature of their relationship was from 1999 onward.

[NewinTexsas]

“If there is evidence that Paterno knew Sandusky was raping boys but didn’t report it, I would’ve thought he’d be charged with the athletic & finance directors.”

Evidence? It is documented that at least the following knew ...

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Schreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
John DiNunzio (Keystone Central School District Interim Superintendent)
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors