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Penn State trustees fire football coach Joe Paterno and PSU president Spanier
AP/Newser.com ^ | Nov. 9, 2011 | Genaro C. Armas

Posted on 11/09/2011 7:30:27 PM PST by Colofornian

Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier (SPAN-yer) amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.

One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn't go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower...

(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: fired; grahamspanier; jerrysandusky; joepaterno; paterno; pennstate; pennsylvania; sandusky; spanier
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To: Havisham

A grand jury report is in no way equivalent to a conviction in a court of law. When you get right down to it, it’s pretty much just another complaint.
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541 posted on 11/10/2011 2:05:45 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: flintsilver7
They didn't have to know the FULL EXTENT of Sandusky's pedophilia, they had to have the decency to SUSPECT it and followup on finding out was going on.

They couldn't be bothered with doing that.

542 posted on 11/10/2011 2:08:26 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317
Paterno was told something 'going on' and that is a fact.

The Grad student witnessed it, that is a fact.

Neither of them reported what they knew to police, and that is a fact.

Those three facts should be enough for any rational man.

543 posted on 11/10/2011 2:11:21 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: NewinTexsas
He can't 'get it', he seems, like others defending Paterno, to be unable to make moral distinctions.

Everything is 'gray'

544 posted on 11/10/2011 2:15:56 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317
You have no idea what you are talking about.

If you don't have intense emotions over this kind of crime, there is something wrong with you.

545 posted on 11/10/2011 2:18:24 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: fortheDeclaration

From post 525

“So some little kid got sodomized... Penn State is playing this weekend and we’re having a party/BBQ at my place. Doesn’t hurt me...and besides, all those people are gonna be hurt just because of one little kid? Come on! we are talking hundreds of millions of dollars here, thousands of jobs and a Football Dynasty! You wanna put one little kid over all that????”

Any person with a gram of morality and decency would deck the idiot saying that but there are so many saying and thinking that exact thing right now, it shows you that America is pretty much toast. And we got that way because liberals incrementalized that very philosophy into mainstream consciousness.


546 posted on 11/10/2011 2:20:38 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: LeonardFMason
Yes, 'needless to say', so why are so many insistent that Paterno get some kind of pass for not knowing the details?

An older man in the shower with a young boy is enough-period!

547 posted on 11/10/2011 2:20:40 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317
Due process is a legal issue, not a moral one.

Those under indictment will receive it.

Others, who could have acted, but didn't, will receive the just moral condemnation they deserve.

You have a very difficult time grasping distinctions between concepts.

548 posted on 11/10/2011 2:23:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317

You are the Left.


549 posted on 11/10/2011 2:25:03 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317

And who are those people that you claim are being unfairly treated?


550 posted on 11/10/2011 2:25:51 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317
What part of 'due process' has been denied?

There are often moral clauses in contracts, in which the school has a right to fire someone who brings the school's reputation into question.

Stop defending the monsters under the guise of 'fairness', no one was fair to those children.

551 posted on 11/10/2011 2:29:59 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Hoodat
Yes, no one is making anything up, these are facts in the grand jury trial.

Patrano was so arrogant that he thought he could dictate when he was going to leave.

552 posted on 11/10/2011 2:31:35 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: RobertClark

Sadly you seem more concerned for the coach.


553 posted on 11/10/2011 2:33:19 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Teacher317
A public employee’s liberty interest can be triggered by a discharge under certain publicly stigmatizing circumstances."

I hope you don't teach reading.

Note the word 'certain', not ALL.

No one has been denied any due process.

No go back to the ACLU, where you came from.

554 posted on 11/10/2011 2:37:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317

Why don’t you show where due process was denied to anyone?


555 posted on 11/10/2011 2:38:07 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: tcrlaf
He is more concerned about 'due process' then the facts and the truth.

Typical ACLU doubletalk.

556 posted on 11/10/2011 2:38:59 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: techworker

And this hasn’t?


557 posted on 11/10/2011 2:39:46 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Lmo56

Another big question when are they going to remove the NCAA championships if Sandusky was a part of the football program.

When are they going to bulldoze the showers.

This poster hopes the attorneys bankrupt Pedophile State.


558 posted on 11/10/2011 2:40:00 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Teacher317

Because Sandusky is going through ‘due process’!


559 posted on 11/10/2011 2:42:31 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Teacher317
The reading states 'certain' not ALL.

Paterno has nothing due to him, but to go in disgrace.

560 posted on 11/10/2011 2:43:35 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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