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To: wasp69
Considering Paterno put his hands in his pockets and looked the other way for at least 9 years...

Yeah, Paterno should have fired Sandusky on the spo... oh wait. Sandusky was already gone from the coaching staff for three years at that point. Nevermind. Okay, then.. Paterno should have done his job as a police investigator and district attorney and... oh wait. Paterno was never a police investigator or district attorney. Okay, then.. Paterno should have screamed to the rooftops that, based on a fuzzy report from an undergraduate assistant, former coach Jerry Sandusky is a gay pedophile rapist!

Is that what you would have done?

176 posted on 11/09/2011 9:21:54 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“..based on a fuzzy report from an undergraduate assistant..”

What? Have you read the grand jury discovery report? Fuzzy? A 60 year old man in the shower with a 10 year old boy?

McQuery is a coward to be sure, but he saw sexual conduct and then called his daddy. He didn’t do squat to stop the conduct. Paterno and everyone involved with this had not only a legal duty, but a moral duty to make sure that nothing like that happened again. Fuzzy? Really?


192 posted on 11/09/2011 9:36:14 AM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Apparently you would have done the same as Joe. Allow a known boy rapist access to your shower rooms. Thanks.


197 posted on 11/09/2011 9:45:47 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Lancey Howard

At the very least, Paterno should have made sure that Sandusky stopped holding football camps at PSU facilities (he was still doing that as of at least 2007).


200 posted on 11/09/2011 9:47:28 AM PST by MIDad23
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To: Lancey Howard
Yeah, Paterno should have fired Sandusky on the spo... oh wait. Sandusky was already gone from the coaching staff for three years at that point. Nevermind. Okay, then.. Paterno should have done his job as a police investigator and district attorney and... oh wait. Paterno was never a police investigator or district attorney. Okay, then.. Paterno should have screamed to the rooftops that, based on a fuzzy report from an undergraduate assistant, former coach Jerry Sandusky is a gay pedophile rapist!

Is that what you would have done?


At the very least, Lancey, I would have followed up on a report of child molestation in my facilities by one of my ex employees which I knew had been investigated by the CPS gestapo for child molestation in 1998. After finding that nothing had been done, I would have exercised some leadership and popped smoke on a situation where children were being hurt in an attempt to prevent it from happening again.

Does that clear it up for you?
201 posted on 11/09/2011 9:47:28 AM PST by wasp69 (space for rent)
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To: Lancey Howard
Your stunning disregard for the REAL victims of this crime -- the molested/raped young boys -- absolutely astounds me.

Maybe this hypothetical can better put things in perspective: Imagine YOU were the GOD OF PENN STATE (Joe Pa) and an extremely agitated assistant came up to you and told you that he had just witnessed your son (or grandson) being sodomized in the showers by the former defensive coordinator. Would you have thanked the assistant for his testimony, then wait 24 hours to inform the AD of the assault? And NEVER call the police?

Not what if I were the coach at Penn State, and this same agitated assistant told me that YOUR son (or grandson) was anally raped in the shower room? Would you still defend me for not calling the police, and waiting 24 hours before informing the AD?

My question: Why is it OK for an "anonymous" child to be so heinously disregarded by Joe Pa, but not OK if the child was yours or mine or his?

215 posted on 11/09/2011 9:59:10 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Lancey Howard
In order to volunteer to help at my daughters' Catholic school I had to pass a background check and attend three hours of training about how to spot abuse and potential abusers. After the training I realized that there had been numerous instances in my life where I may have been watching a potential abuser at work but had no idea what was going on. It is not obvious unless you know what to look for because I think most of us want to believe that it is a one in a million sort of thing and sadly, it isn't. It is way more prevalent than any of us want to believe and an abuser can be anyone; male, female, single, married, straight or gay.

I haven't read the charges, I don't know exactly what Paterno was told by McQueary. If McQueary saw something illegal, it is on him to call the police. If he told Paterno he saw something illegal, it was on Paterno to tell McQueary to contact the police, he was the witness. Obviously, Paterno needed to do more if he was told specifics. I'm just not sure that that was the case. Yet.
221 posted on 11/09/2011 10:03:25 AM PST by Fry
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To: Lancey Howard
If I were Paterno, I would have called the cops and let them sort it all out. Paterno could not decide but he had an ethical duty to step in given he had a witness to the crime. And the homo rape of a boy or teen is a horrific crime against that person.

That is what a responsible adult would do when a valid witness comes in and says they witnessed a homo pervert raping a boy!

If I learned this from a trustworthy witness at my corner gym, I would call the police. It does not matter to me whether I employ the perv or just run across his handiwork as I live my life. It is an emergency situation. Homo sex abuse of boys hides and thrives behind secrecy and fear.

Some men seem a tad confused about the ethical imperatives involved in adults dealing responsibly with boy sexual child abuse issues. Some Freepers have a hard time seeing the homo rape of a man as something horrific, too. Live and learn from this so if any of us are ever confronted with such a nightmare, none of us are not ethically ignorant and end up adding to the problem for more boys.

367 posted on 11/09/2011 5:20:51 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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