Posted on 11/08/2011 11:40:43 AM PST by bjorn14
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.
The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious national brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.
Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.
At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.
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“I can’t fight that fantasy.”
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Or the tidal wave of individuals of all stripes, who can recognize plain truth and facts, and are calling for Paterno to step down, or worse.
Now who is it that has the fictional construct?
I think Paterno is an honest and decent guy who is cooperating because it is the right thing to do. I think Curley and Schultz are in trouble because they knew a very serious crime occurred and ignored it, and then lied under oath to cover their butts.
But we shall see.
Hmmm, and to think there were people bagging on Jim Tressel for keeping quiet and not ratting out his own players.
Not that either coach is above reproach, but I will take trading player owned memorabilia for tattoos over sodomizing little kids in the locker room ANY DAY.
You can take THAT BS back to Pedo State.
Oh I completely agree that Curley & Schultz are in serious legal trouble, and rightly so. I just think that, maybe, the prosecutor is expecting that Paterno will provide the narrative to tie this story up nice & neat for the jury. It may well be that Graham Spanier & PSU are expecting the same. But it looks like the fire has already jumped the fire-breaks.
“And, the grad assistant wasn’t specific as to what took place.”
Oh really? Well that’s what JoePa said anyway. Is that what McQueary said? Can’t tell....they aren’t telling us.
Paterno claims it was a vague description of something inappropriate of a sexual nature in the shower.
He says McQueary was clearly upset.
So....if JoePa didn’t ask the obvious...”well, what EXACTLY did you see Mike?”.....is that a problem?
This is on top of Paterno claiming he didn’t know about 1998.
That is very difficult to believe.
It appears that JoePa didn’t know a heluva lot doesn’t it?
And yet, Sandusky kept showing up at games with boys. He kept coaching youth camps at PSU satellite campuses.
Sandusky kept his office.
Heck...he worked out on campus just last week.
no one involved with football? really.
the football facilities are a sacred universe - given access only to the annointed.
JoePa is the King.
Not involved with football? you don’t have the key - you can’t use the facility - you can’t use the workout room, the sauna, the showers.
Guess who came and went with boy after boy?
He was clearly comfortable in those football facilities.
Guess who kept an office all these years?
Guess who kept bringing boys to games?
You don’t think that if JoePa doesn’t want you in his kingdom that you would be banned?
Did you read the account of Mike McQueary walking away from a child who was being raped IN THE FOOTBALL FACILITY?
Walked away.
Went home and called his dad.
Knowing and suspecting are different things.
The matters involving Sandusky that likely came to Paterno's attentions were the 1998 one which was investigated by police who ended it by just giving him a warning not to shower with kids; and the 2002 one which ended with university administrators saying they investigated it, found it to be horseplay and that Sandusky couldn't bring kids to the facilities anymore.
I'm not sure what Paterno could have done.
And I do think there is something seriously corrupt with Penn State.
So you are saying that if Joe Paterno, the GOD of Penn State football, had gone to the University and demanded they be rid of Sandusky, that they would not have done so?
If you believe that then you seem to be the one with the fantasies on the brain.
The next question should be, why DIDN’T JoePa demand that Sandusky not be allowed anywhere near his program? Wasn’t the hallmark of the PSU program “Success with Honor”? Should Paterno have done that if he had any concern whatsoever that something of this nature was going on.
Sandusky was still holding football camps and recruiting on behalf of the football program.
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Paterno MAY have abided by the law. But wasn’t his reputation and the reputation of his program supposed to be about much more than doing the minimum? And to think PSU fans criticized Jim Tressel and OSU.
“The Presentment is very, very careful not to mention what McQuery told the investigators that he told Paterno”
Yes. Thank you.
That has been bothering me, and you are the first I’ve seen articulate it.
There is something very strange...like - maybe they don’t want to put an 84 yr. old man in jail. Especially if his name is Joe Paterno.
That was tried by Paterno-bots and shot down days ago. He met with the VP of Finance and Business.
AGAIN! Schultz was NOT the police.
What's clear is that everybody associated with Penn State football found out in 1998 (or earlier) that Sandusky was showering with young boys in the football locker room showers. He wasn't prosecuted because apparently there wasn't evidence of molestation. The prosecutor, Gricar, disappeared. As in . . . disappeared.
But after that, Sandusky 'took an early retirement.'
Instead of being booted to the curb, Penn State - which although it sickens me, means, Joe Paterno - gave Sandusky emeritus status in the Athletic Department. An office in the athletic building. A phone. A parking space. An internet account. Discounts at the school store and on tuition for his kid. Keys to everything. And Sandusky kept hanging around . . . and bringing young boys with him from The Second Mile program. Sandusky was bringing them to pre-game banquets, even. And football practices. And showing them around the football locker room.
Ramcat? Think of the stereotype of the older pedophile. A creepy old man who lures kids with candy. The candy that Sandusky used was the Penn State football program.
And JoePa and everyone around the Penn State football program knew that Sandusky was using it as candy. Heck, they gave it to Sandusky to use when they gave him the emeritus status, the office, the keys, and the rights to sit at those pre-game banquets with the kids.
I'm sickened.
It was reported early on that Joe had agreed to testify against Curley and Schultz.
I think the problem here is that you think Paterno actually has divine powers. If Paterno demanded of Curley and Spainer that Sandusky be banned after he got his retirement package, they would have put their arms around his shoulders and explained why they couldn't do that.
Plus Curley, Schultz, President Spanier, PSU attorney Courtney, the university police, the county DA's office.
He was just head of the department.
Why would the VP of Finance be involved in discussions concerning a report of a sex with a minor?
So, Joe accepted their explanation and said hello and goodbye to Sandusky and the little boys he continued to take to the locker room ...
No. He was NOT head of the department.
Number of victims doubles.
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