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Joe Paterno must be fired immediately for protecting Jerry Sandusky amid disgusting allegations...
New England Sports Network.com ^ | Nov. 7, 2011 | Jeff Howe

Posted on 11/07/2011 9:23:41 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: bunkerhill7
Doesn`t this mean that they have to sell Beaver Stadium and all the buildings `n properties and give the money to the victims if Penn State loses the lawsuit?

See my last part of post #20...insurance will likely cover most if not all.

21 posted on 11/07/2011 10:47:05 PM PST by Colofornian (Anyone that can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone...)
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To: elephantlips
this is more than a little early to jump on a “ride Paterno out on a rail.

Read the transcript of the GJ. Then decide if in is too early to jump on the rail. Spanner should be fired too. He gets the salary of a corporate exec, but has the sense of a common worker in a grocery store (shelf stock-er or box loader).

His position and pay (on the citizens of PA) demand he have more sense. Neither do the rest of the players in this very pathetic case. Fire them all and strip their retirements or we continue to pay them for having NO sense at all.

Just imagine if you were one of the parents of the children, or children who were actually affected by this? It is sick and no one will learn unless examples are made of these managers.
22 posted on 11/07/2011 10:48:52 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: bunkerhill7
You should be right but Paterno, Spanner, et al will get their lucrative retirements and perks on the citizens dimes.
23 posted on 11/07/2011 10:51:27 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Colofornian
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582613575

Check this out, appropriate title, written in 2000.

Should call them the Nittany Lyin's

24 posted on 11/07/2011 10:56:25 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Colofornian

Penn State is a BASTION of Liberalism...

The only shocking thing in this article is how long it stayed under cover, even though Administration officials KNEW it was going on.


25 posted on 11/07/2011 10:58:37 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: this_ol_patriot
Should call them the Nittany Lyin's

They've earned it...

Any sponsors that renew their Penn State athletic event sponsorship should have their marketing head examined and be properly boycotted.

26 posted on 11/07/2011 10:59:02 PM PST by Colofornian (Anyone that can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone...)
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To: Antoninus
Sorry Antoninus. All the others were enablers of this crime. You need to ask how many children would not have had contact with this "monster" if any one of them had pushed to see this was handled 10 years ago!

By not having pushed, as STATE LAW says) for Sandusky to be criminally investigated and prosecuted they allowed more kids to be harmed.
27 posted on 11/07/2011 10:59:18 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff; bunkerhill7
You should be right but Paterno, Spanner, et al will get their lucrative retirements and perks on the citizens dimes.

Yup. Penn STATE -- with the "state" (citizens) footing the bill.

Isn't it 'bout time that the government -- the STATE -- get out of the pedophile & cover-up biz?

28 posted on 11/07/2011 11:00:51 PM PST by Colofornian (Anyone that can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone...)
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To: Colofornian

1) Oh okay so you think the media does not have a left wing bias???? Please don’t tell me you REALLY believe that!

2) Joe reported what he found out as he should. However, you wanted him to go some quest without all the facts and with what authority? There are procedures when you find an employee doing something wrong. Joe did the proper response. To say he some how knew all the facts and participated in some sort of cover up is B.S.

It’s obvious you have some sort of beef agains Joe Paterno. Your judgement of him at best is pure assinime.


29 posted on 11/07/2011 11:05:23 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Colofornian
They allowed the guy to run youth football camps at Penn State Erie and Penn State Middletown up until 2008 and that was after they knew about this. Even if nothing happened you don't store gas near fire.

I'm a Penn State fan and I would give JoePa the benefit of the doubt if this was about bling or recruitment and I know Paterno doesn't approve of this perverted behavior but he was protecting the "Old Boy Network" for absolutely the wrong thing. For that lack of judgment he needs to go.

30 posted on 11/07/2011 11:15:40 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Sprite518

Actually, he is alleged to have known the details but somehow when he passed information up the chain anal rape magically turned into fondling.

If that is detirmined to be true as alledged as this plays out then Joe needs to spend his last years in a cell, which won’t be near the hell those kids lives are but its the best we can do.


31 posted on 11/07/2011 11:47:15 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

As long as Joe Paterno follow State College procedures, then you have nothing.


32 posted on 11/08/2011 12:02:01 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Yes. There was an allegation. He reported the allegation. He apparently thought he knew Sandusky, and figured there was no way he’d be doing what he was alleged to have done, and since the investigation went nowhere, that could well have convinced him that he was right. People who are invested in other people have a very hard time believing those other people could really do bad things, and even if you have multiple accusers, Paterno was likely to still believe the denials, because that’s what he wanted to believe.

Shoule he be fired for trusting his friend? I mean, if any evidence shows that he was aware of more than he spoke about, that’s a totally different situation.

Frankly, and I’m a fan of Penn State and Paterno, I think he should resign. Maybe that would be unfair, but the story is going to suck the life out of Penn state, and even unsubstantiated allegations that Paterno knew something are going to make it impossible for Penn State to come through this, so long as Paterno is still there.

Sometimes, even being technically innocent isn’t enough.


33 posted on 11/08/2011 12:15:40 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And he could actually be guilty — I’m not trying to try the case for him. I’m just saying that “even if” he is innocent, he should resign for the good of the program.


34 posted on 11/08/2011 12:18:43 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Colofornian

This was in the WSJ:

“He (Sandusky) married the former Dorothy Gross of Chattanooga, Tenn. With no natural children of their own, they eventually adopted six children.”


35 posted on 11/08/2011 12:28:44 AM PST by bushpilot1
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POS Leftist Head Hunters, looking for next trophy

where is ANY of this outrage of cover up directed at the higher up command of the muslime that killed all those troppers at Ft Hood, or ALL THE COVER for obama in his deceptions?

this whole thing is pathetic


36 posted on 11/08/2011 1:38:33 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: SF_Redux

why hasn’t any of these head hunters gone after obamas line of lies and indepth invetigations at who the hell he is???


37 posted on 11/08/2011 1:39:50 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It would be tough to believe this of a friend, no doubt. Or if not a friend at least someone he had coached and then worked with for many years. However, he had time to come to grips with the reality of the situation and to see that there was at least a very strong possibility that his friend/colleague had a monstrous Hyde side to him which, as the name implies, he had managed to keep hidden through the years. At least up until an incident in '98 (which Paterno may or may not have known about) and then of course the 2002 incident.

However, one thing that i do think needs to be at least considered is whether the grad asst McQueary actually did go into full detail about the incident with Paterno (and later the other higher ups) as he claims, or whether he had downplayed it, merely saying he saw Sandusky and the boy horsing around together in the shower. The grand jury believed McQueary and not the others, especially Curley and the other official, but i'm not as convinced.

After all, McQueary stumbled upon a horrific crime taking place and yet didn't stop it, didn't call 911. So he may have been reluctant to describe what he saw in more than a vague way, for then everyone would wonder why he didn't immediately intervene and rescue the boy. Therefore he may have watered it down in order that he wouldn't come off looking weak, especially in front of his former head coach and current boss. And Paterno definitely is not the type of man you want to look weak in front of.

So then years later it comes to trial and this time he, for whatever reason, is ready to finally give a full account to what he witnessed. But this suddenly puts him in another predicament. For he would surely realize that it would be in his best interest to say that this was the version he had told all along, since if he admits that he had initially only portrayed it as horsing around and such, then the blame falls on him for not reporting the incident accurately.

This is just something that occurs to me as a possible alternate scenario, one that would put things in a slightly better light for Paterno and the other PSU higher ups. For i am not at all convinced that McQueary is of a particularly strong character and someone that can be totally relied upon.

38 posted on 11/08/2011 2:54:52 AM PST by Humbug
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To: Humbug

Paterno’s gotta go. Now. Like it or not, this is the legacy he will leave behind.

As for who had what obligation to report what to whom, I can’t think of ANY scenario where I’m not telling the story to a police officer or detective FIRST, and my boss second.


39 posted on 11/08/2011 4:38:54 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Antoninus

Telling his boss, which he helped select, is not an adequate explanation. Paterno should have gone to the police.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 4:39:26 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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