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Raw milk supporters rally around 'criminal' moms
The Washington Times ^ | November 2, 2011 | Jessica Claire Haney

Posted on 11/07/2011 6:53:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: exDemMom

I know the “Quality” of everything that mainstream medicine is foisting on the public, and it warrants felony charges.


121 posted on 11/09/2011 8:56:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

>> Bottom line: you rely on vested-interest websites which sell products they tell you are essential for your “health”. <<

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You know that you are being dishonest.

I do not often even link any site that sells anything.

I rely only on solid event-proven facts.

That is the difference between the real cures that result from natural protocols, and the deceptive masking of symptoms that characterizes the house of cards known as “mainstream medicine.”


122 posted on 11/09/2011 9:15:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: exDemMom

Why place a poster of “typical microbial analysis”? I wouldn’t give a rat’s behind about that if I were buying raw milk.

BUT, I would want to see the test results from the dairy I’m buying from.

From my experience, the folks buying raw milk are much more aware of what the risks are of the product they buy than are those of us who ignorantly and blissfully pick up our jug at the supermarket.

BTW - the insurance excuse is just cover for the desire to make folks “behave”. I don’t drink raw milk (very often), but if folks want to buy it, that’s their business - not Nancy’s or Harry’s or John’s or Mitch’s. I don’t care how “well meaning” anybody claims to be - I don’t take their meaning very well when they’re trying to tell me what food I can eat! If I want to eat cow manure directly, it’s nobody else’s business as long as I don’t ask you to pay for either the manure or the doctor - and no, I won’t pay for rhinoplasty when the nosy-parker’s proboscis meets my crap laden fist!


123 posted on 11/09/2011 10:13:28 PM PST by GilesB
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To: exDemMom

“Politicians set public health policy...” Aye - and there’s the rub. Scientists are fine - good to have information, it’s the politician feller (or even the scientist) mandating my food, that’s where I get my hackles up. I’m ready to go out and drink raw milk right now, just to spite all the nannys out there!


124 posted on 11/09/2011 10:20:49 PM PST by GilesB
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To: exDemMom

Actually - the poster specifically stated that the accusation was directed generally, not personally.


125 posted on 11/09/2011 10:25:58 PM PST by GilesB
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To: editor-surveyor

The website link you provide seems to be for wakipedophiles.


126 posted on 11/10/2011 3:53:03 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

“...there was a serious disease problem that led the world to adopt pasteurization.”

The world DID NOT adopt pasteurization...the United States adopted it. A huge majority of the people in the world drink raw milk.

There is more disease spread through pasteurized milk today than through raw milk. In fact the few cases attributed to raw milk are from some other cause.

Raw milk is healthy, pasteurized milk is not. Raw milk is REAL milk. Pasteurized/homogenized is no longer milk.


127 posted on 11/10/2011 4:08:12 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: editor-surveyor
I know the “Quality” of everything that mainstream medicine is foisting on the public, and it warrants felony charges.

So, promoting health and saving people's lives when they have a health crisis is worth felony charges now?

Personally, I'm glad for the penicillin that cured me of potentially deadly strep throat twice. (Yes, deadly: my mother's only sister died of it just before my mother was born.) I'm also glad for the medical technology that enabled a surgeon to restore over 90% of the function of my arm after I broke it. I've had other medical problems, as well. No quackery would have gotten me through those crises.

128 posted on 11/10/2011 4:19:09 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: GilesB

Oh just stop! What a load.

It is not nanny state big government to outlaw the sale of unsafe food. What is unsafe? To outlaw such sale, the law must define what is unsafe. You disagree with the definition but have no science to back up your opinion. Then you claim it is all a big conspiracy and that heating food makes it poisonous. Meanwhile the reality is that in the West pasteurization and other protocols have massively reduced foodborne disease and have also helped dramaticly extended the average life expectancy age. And in the face of that you claim that the alleged spike in diseases associated with old age is due to pasteurization, rather than a natural effect of massively increasing the number of people who are healthy enough to become elderly and get the old-age diseases (diabetes, heart disease, and cancer).

The Church of the Living Vitamin and Raw Food
is a weird place. Keep sending those tithes (plus shipping and handling).


129 posted on 11/10/2011 4:22:12 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

The West has adopted pasteurization for health and safety reasons. Homogenization is not mandated but is what consumers have chosen. If consumers were to demand it unhomogenized, they would get it.

You have bad info. Please check the facts and then get back to us.


130 posted on 11/10/2011 4:27:11 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: exDemMom

A splint made of organic materials would have fixed your arm - that and some leech-induced bleeding.


131 posted on 11/10/2011 4:30:26 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

I do not know who you are, but your bias is glaring...I have read many of your other comments on this thread and they smell of hay and oats, used once.

Your comments in general have no basis in fact. But go ahead and drink all the pasteurized milk you want. It is your health at stake, not mine. Or better still, drink soy milk...the worst substitute for a white beverage one could choose.


132 posted on 11/10/2011 4:35:12 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Do you think there should be any laws that govern food safety?


133 posted on 11/10/2011 4:42:57 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

If you own some cows and want to consume what you produce, then good for you. I agree that this should be allowed.

But I think there should be some laws governing the safety of food that enters into commerce. I want it all to be statelaw, not federal. And the states can voluntarily agree to enact the same state laws if they wish in order to make commerce easier.

I want to buy inexpensive safe food. I want safety laws that keep the industrial food producers on their toes.


134 posted on 11/10/2011 4:50:16 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Still Thinking
I'm less worried about someone getting listeria, assuming they know what they're consuming, than I am about the government presuming they have the authority to delve into this aspect of my (or anyone's) life.

Next thing you know, the government will be telling us which plant leaves we can smoke.

Oops - To late.

135 posted on 11/10/2011 4:50:19 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: editor-surveyor
I do not often even link any site that sells anything.

The "Health Advantage" site you linked contains a heavy dose of misinformation, and offers to sell you all kinds of "natural" products.

Like any good propagandist, that site mixes valid scientific data with a bunch of hooey, all to make their sales pitch sound legitimate.

136 posted on 11/10/2011 4:51:27 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Notwithstanding

You stop. You put words in my mouth and claim beliefs on my behalf that I have never espoused or expressed, so cool your jets on down and back off.

It is not your place, nor the government’s to tell me what I must not eat. If you think it is unsafe, don’t put it in your mouth! As long as I know what it is I’m ingesting, I’m a big boy, and I don’t need you looking over my shoulder with your controlling pie-hole telling me what I must and must not eat.

Give me the information and shut up and back off!


137 posted on 11/10/2011 5:05:24 AM PST by GilesB
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To: Notwithstanding

How about this radical and novel idea?

As long as the milk is identified as raw or pasteurized - let the folks decide which they want to purchase.

You could even stand there and crank and yammer at the folks who bought the “wrong” stuff, for all I care.

Maybe I want to eat a Big Mac, some potato chips a cube of butter and a tub of ice cream - it’s unhealthy...are you going to prohibit me from eating it?

Let me express my moral superiority - I am willing to allow you to make your own decisions about your health, but you insist on making mine as well.


138 posted on 11/10/2011 5:21:49 AM PST by GilesB
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To: GilesB

My post was meant as a reply to the post immediately above yours. Sorry for the confusion.

You may reclaim your indignation and save it for future use.


139 posted on 11/10/2011 6:17:32 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: JRandomFreeper

Congress passed the law, and frankly I am glad we have food safety laws, go back and read about the deaths that were all to common from processed and packaged food before they existed.

However if a small farmer wants to sell raw milk directly to people who know that’s what they are getting so be it, I see no reason not to allow exceptions for the screwballs... they want to risk them or their children get infected with bovine tuberculosis, brucellosis, E. coli O157:H7, Listeria, and Salmonella just to name a few, so be it.

I don’t think it should be on super market shelves.


140 posted on 11/10/2011 6:25:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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