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To: SeekAndFind

i saw the live press conference,
and concluded that ms. bialek was telling the truth.
cain has to come out and admit his mistakes.


11 posted on 11/07/2011 12:59:36 PM PST by indpndtguy
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To: indpndtguy

RE: i saw the live press conference,
and concluded that ms. bialek was telling the truth.
cain has to come out and admit his mistakes.

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Can you elaborate your reasons as to why you believe her over him?


15 posted on 11/07/2011 1:01:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: indpndtguy

Think about it. What she says Cain did, in the front seat, is physically impossible. Cain’s hands cannot be where she says.

So just admit it. YOU want to believe it is true because you wrongly think it will help your candidate.


34 posted on 11/07/2011 1:13:45 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: indpndtguy

How does someone have eight entire posts in two years?


47 posted on 11/07/2011 1:18:20 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: indpndtguy

I heard her on Hannity’s replay. Voice stress says she’s lying through her teeth. All the markers are there.


57 posted on 11/07/2011 1:22:27 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: indpndtguy

Ignoring the first part of your post, since when does making a move on an adult woman constitute a “mistake”? Might be an issue between spouses or BF-GF, but noting more.

If she’s telling the truth as you say, then she got hit on by a person who wasn’t her boss, her pastor, her high school principal. And since she claims to have had a “boyfriend” that rule out being lesbian, which would put here in a protected class.

There’s no “mistake” here. In fact, there’s nothing here at all.


59 posted on 11/07/2011 1:24:47 PM PST by bigbob
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To: indpndtguy

This woman was not his employee at the time. So what if he made a pass at her? What man doesn’t try to make a pass at a woman? A dead man that’s who. The media is trying to hang Cain for allegedly making a pass at some woman? Pretty much proves they’re scared to death that Herman Cain will beat Obama!


61 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:24 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: indpndtguy

I said this about Cain the other day, and I still think it’s true:

I really, really like Cain, but I think he’s toast. With as much time as he had to prepare a response, how hard would it have been to say something like this:

“I worked for many years as a successful executive in the business world. During that time, the definition of the term ‘sexual harassment’ was a constantly moving target because it was based on the perceptions and motivations of the accuser. Unfortunately, during my tenure at the National Reataurant Association, there were a couple of women who felt that I had crossed that line, blurry as it was. As a result, they filed complaints against me, the facts of which I have always disputed. Because of the sensitive nature of the subject and the legal costs involved in defending against such complaints, the decision was made in conjunction with our legal counsel to settle these complaints rather than proceed to costly court battles. We always felt we could win on the facts of the cases if we had been forced to proceed, but these types of settlements happen every day in corporate America. One cannot infer anything from a settlement like this unless one has a political axe to grind. Because of the sensitive nature of the complaints and the confidentiality agreements, which bind all parties involved, I won’t comment any further, except to say that if anything I’ve said in my many years in business was taken in the wrong way or made someone uncomfortable, I am sorry that there was such a misunderstanding. My career has been marked by success and respect for and from those who have worked for me and around me. Now I have more important things to discuss like how I am prepared to lead this country out of this disaster-in-the-making that the Obama presidency has become. Thank you.”

I came up with that in five minutes. He had years to prepare something better, but instead, he chose to mislead, obfuscate and conceal, and then he was forced to start changing his story a little at a time. It’s his RESPONSE that bothers me, because it makes me wonder how bad the truth is if he was so set on hiding it.

If he had said something like I suggested, then as details emerged, he could have said “as I’ve said, perceptions differ among people, and I did not believe that I said or did anything that should have made anyone feel uncomfortable. If someone felt that way, it certainly wasn’t my intention and I am sorry that they misunderstood.”

A statement like that would largely insulate him from further criticism about all this. I am almost willing to bet that there is more coming to this story. Even if there isn’t, Cain hasn’t handled this well at all.

Oh, and he also played the race card when he said that he was prepared for a high-tech lynching. I HATE when anyone plays the race card, especially on our side.


62 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:37 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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112 posted on 11/07/2011 1:52:43 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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