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The Tea Party Case for Newt Gingrich
American Thinker ^ | 11/07/2011 | Kevin Tharp

Posted on 11/07/2011 7:00:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The Republican Party seems to be struggling to find a candidate it can unite around. One impediment may be a mindset common among some of my fellow Tea Partiers, a false dichotomy that if you are in government you are part of the problem, and if you are not in government, you are part of the solution -- whatever those problems or solutions may be.

Herman Cain says, "The folks in Washington have held public office. How's that working out for you?" It's a catchy comeback. But is government tenure, whether recent or not, the reality of the problems in Washington? The biggest problem in Washington today is that we have a president who basically has no experience doing anything important or relevant. And he has surrounded himself with advisors and staff that are inexperienced as well. That's the problem.

This problem can befall Democrats or Republicans. Let me give a Republican example. President Bush's first cabinet had many folks with Washington experience like Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, Mel Martinez, Norm Mineta, and Spencer Abraham. All of these, except Mineta, were conservatives. Many of their replacements had no Washington experience. Most folks would agree that Bush's second term was not as successful as his first. Experience was the difference. Next, let's look at the recent Tea Party successes. Two of the biggest successes are Marco Rubio, who had legislative experience, and Scott Walker, who had much executive and legislative experience. I won't belabor the Tea Party failures here. Needless to say, some of them lacked valuable experience. And what about folks in Washington who agree with the Tea Party, like Senator DeMint or Congressman Pence? They predate the Tea Party but they believe the same policies. Are they part of the problem? No, they are not.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; newtbots; newtgingrich; potus; teaparty; untrustworthy
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Good points, aMPU.

I think of Newt as the Tony Romo of politics: dazzling during the first 3 quarters, major meltdowns when the game is on the line.

Clinton pwn'ed Newt during the shutdown.

21 posted on 11/07/2011 7:17:15 AM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: cripplecreek

His acceptance of global warming, his fondness for selective amnesty, his backing of Dede Scozzafava when there was a true conservative in the race, all these make him untrustworthy, IMO. I’ll not back the man for president. Somewhere in the administration (not VP) where he can be kept in control; yes. There’s a lot he could offer in such a position. But not as president.


22 posted on 11/07/2011 7:18:24 AM PST by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt did not support Doug Hoffman-NY23. The nations first unofficial Tea Party Candidate. Newt supported the Rino, DeDe


23 posted on 11/07/2011 7:21:22 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: TheStickman
Newt of the 1990’s is not Newt of 2011. His conversion to Catholicism suggests to me his “baggage” is being carried by those who don’t believe in Forgiveness and a change of heart.
....when he spoke on Dobson's radio show in 2007, Gingrich refused to say that he was actually repentant. The evangelical leader repeatedly pressed him on that point: "When I hear you talk about this dark side of your life...you didn't mention repentance. Do you understand that word repentance?"
-- from the thread Newt and Evangelicals: Not a Match Made in Heaven
On Gingrich: A legacy of surrender
24 posted on 11/07/2011 7:24:16 AM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: TheStickman

When the Tea Party had it’s first unoffical candidate, Doug Hoffman NY-23, Newt chose Dede, the Rino.

Newtus Agustus could not see a new wind blowing.


25 posted on 11/07/2011 7:25:33 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: samtheman
".... one of the best things Newt could do right now to advance is own campaign would be to take up the case of one Herman Cain and the vicious and rabid attacks Cain is being forced to endure from the commie DNC press.

Try to watch a C-Span replay of their Saturday night debate. The mutual respect and chemistry between the two was wonderful. It allowed both men to explore issues at length and in depth. They are clearly in tune with each other and mutually very supportive. They demonstrated a clear alternative to the MSN Gotcha-Media 30-second soundbite trivial game-show approach to the GOP field.

26 posted on 11/07/2011 7:26:27 AM PST by Reo
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To: Sudetenland
That debate soured me on Herman Cain he was obviously out of his league. I was pretty enthusiastic for him but to be honest he simply is not ready for prime time. He should run for the house or senate and get educated on the issues. He is beginning to embarrass himself.
27 posted on 11/07/2011 7:27:21 AM PST by ontap
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To: SeekAndFind

The question isn’t whether or not Newt has serious flaws. Of course he does. It’s simply a matter of weighing his flaws versus the flaws of the other choices. The mere fact that Newt is now getting serious consideration, here and elsewhere, tells you all you need to know about the quality of the field (Limbaugh’s pom-pom waving notwithstanding.)


28 posted on 11/07/2011 7:28:48 AM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I OPT for: “someone who has the experience and RECORD to get us out of our present funk?”


29 posted on 11/07/2011 7:29:49 AM PST by annieokie
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To: ObamaMustGo2012
Yet, he’s starting to look pretty good right about now, isn’t he?

Newt is a one world globalist...He'll take up where Obama left off...

30 posted on 11/07/2011 7:31:07 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would, at a minimum, like to see him make mincemeat of Obama in a debate - he could do it with half his brain & one hand tied behind his back.


31 posted on 11/07/2011 7:31:47 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Obama 2012: Debt Man Walking.)
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To: Sudetenland
The Gingrich MIND is like a computer, he just has the knowledge and can retrive it in an instant.

Cain had to REBOOT several times, can't find the knowledge and rambles around in GOOGLE.

32 posted on 11/07/2011 7:32:43 AM PST by annieokie
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To: tennmountainman

RE: Newt supported the Rino, DeDe

I acknowledged that in my first post on this thread.


33 posted on 11/07/2011 7:33:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Alex Murphy

I’d suggest better sourcing than Slate.

Also, Dobson’s interview proves zip.

FTR, I am for Cain & look forward to voting for him early & often.

Newt would be better than Mittens & he would destroy Obama in any debate, IMO.


34 posted on 11/07/2011 7:35:11 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: rightwingextremist1776

As time goes on I’m liking Newt more and more....

Me too.

None of the candidates are perfect. I don’t think Cain is going to recover from these scandals, whether they’re true or not, just my opinion. I think Newt probably is the best anti Romney choice we have, he will make obumbles look like the idiot that he is in a debate.


35 posted on 11/07/2011 7:37:30 AM PST by hdbc (1/20/13 End of an Error.)
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To: Sudetenland

May copy this to my home page - tired of posting it over and over;) People need to do some research instead of just repeating the same erroneous nonsense;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich

Congress fulfilled Gingrich’s Contract promise to bring all ten of the Contract’s issues to a vote within the first 100 days of the session, even though most legislation was initially held up in the Senate. Over the objection of liberal/progressive interest groups[29] and President Clinton, who called it the “Contract on America”,[30] many aspects of the proposal were implemented in subsequent legislation.

Legislation proposed by the 104th United States Congress included term limits for Congressional Representatives, tax cuts, welfare reform, and a balanced budget amendment, as well as independent auditing of the finances of the House of Representatives and elimination of non-essential services such as the House barbershop and shoe-shine concessions. Following Gingrich’s first two years as House Speaker, the Republican majority was re-elected in the 1996 election, the first time Republicans had done so in 68 years, and the first simultaneous with a Democratic president winning re-election.[31]


36 posted on 11/07/2011 7:41:00 AM PST by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: Sudetenland
. . . exactly where did Newt "fold?"

Just for starters:

  1. Allowing the Clintonistas to blame him for the government shutdown and meekly failing to respond.
  2. Allowing the Clintonistas to drive him from office because he couldn't control his peckerwood any better than Bill.
  3. His performance ever since ranging from the couch commercial with Nancy Pelosi to the global warming buy-in to throwing Paul Ryan's plan under the bus.

Newt Gingrich, like John McCain, will vote with conservatives about 80% of the time, maybe more. It isn't the 20% I'm worried about so much as the timing and gusto with which both men like to poke conservatives in the eye with a sharp stick. Or fold like a cheap tent when the going gets even a little bit tough.

I defended Newt back in the 90's. I thought he was a great speaker of the house who just hadn't learned to play the rough and tumble game of politics with the skill of a Clinton.

But every chance he has been given since has shown that he has learned little. Like John McCain, he is too infatuated with the adoration of the press. The same press which is the enemedia and the root cause of so much of what is wrong with America.

37 posted on 11/07/2011 7:42:25 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin - - - - . Where do I start? First, your line “ - - - The Republican Party seems to be struggling to find a candidate it can unite around. “ is false.

We are listening for IDEAS from Candidates. “Finding a Candidate” is the last thing that we want to do, because once a candidate has the nomination sewed up, he/she stops creating ideas that will solve the problems, and starts caving in so as to “broaden the base.”

So far, NOBODY has a clue as how to solve our number one problem: How do we get out of the financial death spiral that America is in?

We have had two Presidents destroy 8 TRILLION dollars in 11 years. NOBODY is addressing how that is going to be paid off in their lifetimes, or AT ALL!

Kevin, “the problem” in the District of Corruption is not with who sits in the Oval Office.

The problem is that our “Checks and Balances” system has ceased to function.

Cain has not figured that out yet, but he comes very close to discovering it as you quote him: “ - - - Herman Cain says, “The folks in Washington have held public office. How’s that working out for you?” - - - .”

Stupid people are in Washington because even more stupid people will not investigate their crimes of commission and omission.

BTW, my dictionary says: stupid adj. 1. Very slow of apprehension or understanding.


38 posted on 11/07/2011 7:44:01 AM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Sudetenland; Alex Murphy
In case you missed it, there is also a superb link on post #24:

Newt Gingrich's legacy of surrender.

39 posted on 11/07/2011 7:46:37 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: hdbc

He is the smartest guy up there.....


40 posted on 11/07/2011 7:46:57 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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