This will probably go over poorly but the Thomas case is nothing like the Cain case.
-Thomas’ accuser never filed a contemporaneous complaint. In fact, she remained close to Thomas after the alleged harassment.
-Cain has not attempted to answer all questions related to the charge nor has he tried to get all the facts of the case out in the open. Saying he did nothing does not address the charges brought against him. If I was wrongly accused I would demand the record be unsealed.
Fair or unfair it is Cain’s responsibility to clear the air. He should start by asking the NRA to release the statements the women made at the time so that he can deny them and offer his own evidence.
“This will probably go over poorly but the Thomas case is nothing like the Cain case.”
It is true, in the Thomas incident we had one accuser who had not done anything about the “harassment” until it was politically expedient to do so.
We now have two (or three?) who complained when politics was not a factor.
Money was, though.
Also, to hear that Mr. Cain was said to have been inappropriate because he said, “Honey, would you mind doctoring my tea?” really made me disinclined to believe anything.
If there is proof, let’s see it. Otherwise the accusers really need to shut up.
“In fact, she remained close to Thomas after the alleged harassment.”
Which is why I did not believe Anita Hill. Had I been subject to the harassment she charged him with, you could not have put enough miles between me and my harasser.
He did nothing wrong. There are anonymous charges brought by anonymous people. What do you want him to do? Confess every sin he ever committed to you?
By the way, I accuse you of doing much worse unspecified things. You should probably confess and address the charges I am bringing against you. Its your responsibility to clear the air now.
The filing or not filing of contemperaneous complaints is certainly a distinction to be made, but I hardly believe that this makes it “nothing like” the Thomas affair. Whatever was brought up against Cain was settled to the formal agreement of all parties, and no action was taken against Cain at the time. The reignition of these issues which have lain quiet for more than a decade make it very much like the Thomas affair, IMHO.
The NRA released them to speak if they chose. Cain was not even aware of one of them and not privy to the negotiations in the other (because of how it was handled and the small amount it’s a nuisance claim) there really was nothing for him to defend. It was gestures, or something. Or cab rides or something. It happened once or something. It happened a lot or something. Everyone knew except everyone didn’t. As is typical with the MSM the story gets more dramatic and bizarre the less traction they get. Everyone’s running around saying he shoulda/coulda/woulda because he didn’t handle it “right” (whatever that is). Except if he handled it so poorly then his rising in the polls and amazing amount of money sent in to his campaign is an anomaly. He didn’t handle it the way the “professional political class” would. Well good. I’m sick of managed & handled & being forced to justify an action because the media is pushing a bunch of innuendos as a real story.
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I don’t think Cain has to do anything. Something happened, I think we can assume that, but what exactly? Was it terrible or minor, like one of the stories here on fr where the response is “what has the world come to where someone gets $90K for something like this?” Is it worse than what Newt did to his wives?
“He should start by asking the NRA to release the statements the women made at the time so that he can deny them and offer his own evidence.”
First of all, Cain DID ask the NRA to release the info, but they could not. And since the agreements were signed between the NRA and the woman/women involved and NOT Cain, he had no legal sranding to even make the request. The women could ask, but not Cain.
Secondly he didn’t even know what the “charges” were and had no part in the investigation.
Thirdly now that the NRA has effectively released at least one woman from the confidentiality agreement, she has stayed silent.
This has gotten downright ridiculous.
I agree. I doubt Thomas would have been confirmed if Anita Hill and another woman had, fifteen years earlier, received tens of thousands of dollars to keep quiet about their accusations.
The CAIN case is EXACTLY like the THOMAS case.
You got a conservative black man. He MUST be destroyed lest the Democrat Plantation be threatened. Period.
NOTHING is stopping the “women” from going public as much as they like. They can show their faces; but it appears they do not want to. (I would like to see them, see if they’re believable or just plug ugly.)
He has said he did nothing wrong and that it was investigated 20 years ago and found baseless.
It's not Herman Cain's job to provide details -- it's the accuser's, and the accuser(s) simply hide behind some legal language to avoid having to answer any questions.
Until any evidence emerges to support the charge, I'm inclined to believe that nothing happened and that this is the same kind of political witch-hunt as in the Clarence Thomas matter.
So are Bill C of BDroppings and wolfcreek Perrybots or Romneybots?
So are Bill C of BDroppings and wolfcreek Perrybots or Romneybots?