Posted on 11/06/2011 10:20:30 PM PST by TigerClaws
No they train them to report it and then keep out of it. The problem is with who he reported it to, not with him.
If you can’t get that through your head then perhaps you really are damaged.
It quoted the grand jurty statement mr scout master. But since you’ve read the actual grand jury testimony perhaps you can provide a link to it.
Or did you read it in an article just like I did.
“It begs forbearance against common sense to say Paterno was unaware of the details of problems with Sandusky.”
Why don’t you just come out and say paterno participated in gay parties with Sandusky. I mean if you’re going to start slandering someone you might as well go for the hail mary.
We know what the graduate student told his father. And we know what Joe Paterno told AD Curley.
We know the graduate assistant met with Paterno. What we don't know is what the graduate assistant told Paterno. Somewhere between the graduate assistant telling his father in detail about an anal rape and Paterno telling AD Curley that Sandusky had been seen fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy - the details of the anal rape were lost.
Either the graduate assistant decided not to tell Paterno about the anal rape, or by the time Paterno recounted it to Curley, it became fondling or something of a sexual nature.
In each other stage in the process, the Grand Jury Presentment states what Party A told Party B. If Party A and Party B disagree about what was said, then the Grand Jury Presentment states both sides. What's conspicuously missing in the Grand Jury Presentment is what the graduate assistant says that he told Joe Paterno. Paterno had no legal obligation to notify the police. When you read between the lines, and there's one piece of information missing, you ask . . . why? Why would the Grand Jury Presentment leave out the graduate assistant's statement about what he told Joe Paterno? The answer could be innocent. The most likely answer is that the graduate assistant told the DA and law enforcement that he told Paterno about more than "fondling."
Putting that in the Grand Jury Presentment would be embarrassing to a man who is the finest ambassador for college football in my lifetime.
We know what the graduate student told his father. And we know what Joe Paterno told AD Curley.
We know the graduate assistant met with Paterno. What we don't know is what the graduate assistant told Paterno. Somewhere between the graduate assistant telling his father in detail about an anal rape and Paterno telling AD Curley that Sandusky had been seen fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy - the details of the anal rape were lost.
Either the graduate assistant decided not to tell Paterno about the anal rape, or by the time Paterno recounted it to Curley, it became fondling or something of a sexual nature.
In each other stage in the process, the Grand Jury Presentment states what Party A told Party B. If Party A and Party B disagree about what was said, then the Grand Jury Presentment states both sides. What's conspicuously missing in the Grand Jury Presentment is what the graduate assistant says that he told Joe Paterno. Paterno had no legal obligation to notify the police. When you read between the lines, and there's one piece of information missing, you ask . . . why? Why would the Grand Jury Presentment leave out the graduate assistant's statement about what he told Joe Paterno? The answer could be innocent. The most likely answer is that the graduate assistant told the DA and law enforcement that he told Paterno about more than "fondling."
Putting that in the Grand Jury Presentment would be embarrassing to a man who is the finest ambassador for college football in my lifetime.
It was an ALLLEGATION. As far as we know, Paterno did not witness anything first-hand, so he could not go to police. He did exactly what he was supposed to to.
He most certainly could have called the police based on second hand information. The police would then have started an investigation and interrogated the witnesses who saw it first hand.
He chose not to know.
That is THE sentence of the thread.
Wrought+over = overwrought. Less wrought please.
Joe Paterno is much more powerful than who he reported to. He knew they were dropping it for the good of the university and to avoid publicity. The dude was around for 9 more years!
Im sorry your fave coach in the world is going out on a sour note but he has some fault in this.
For a felony of this magnitude, I'd call the real police not the "University Police".
Didn’t Stewie Griffin always look forward to his “Sexy Parties” on Family Guy ?
Homosexual pederasts... aren’t they the ones who are completely HARMLESS once they are ‘tolerated’ in institutions like the Department of Defense, the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts of America, the Ivy League and contact sports where sweaty young, delicious men run around in tight outfits ...playing & ‘touching’ ? I can never remember the details...
As Homer Simpson once said: “mmm ...pederasty.”
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Response: For a felony of this magnitude, I'd call the real police not the "University Police".
Good point.
Plus, Paterno reported the matter to the Athletic Director, Curley. Paterno eventually met with Curley and Schultz, the Senior Vice President for Finance and Business, but I don't know that "Paterno went to the top." Curley may have called that meeting. Unless somebody wants to say that Joe Paterno called the shots over the AD about who attended those meetings . . . and Paterno does not want to be identified as the man calling the shots. I don't think you want to go there.
And again, Schultz is not the head of the University Police any more than Barack Obama is head of the FBI. The head of the University Police reports to Schultz. As the Grand Jury Presentment states, neither the University Police nor any law enforcement agency were notified by Schultz (Page 10). (If Schultz were the "head" of the University Police, he wouldn't have to notify them, but he did - because he wasn't the 'head" - and Schultz decided the police really didn't need to know about this).
Born in Pittsburgh
Reared in State College.
I just know the attitude of PSU fans. “JoePa can do no wrong.”
Sorry but he did wrong this time and it transcends a good career and a great reputation.
No organization should have a policy where accusations of child abuse are handled internally. If it does, a Christian is obligated not to follow it. This is a hard lesson the Catholic Church has had to learn and it is applicable to everyone.
“Paterno may have fulfilled his legal requirement to report suspected abuse by former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, state police Commissioner Frank Noonan said, “but somebody has to question about what I would consider the moral requirements for a human being that knows of sexual things that are taking place with a child.”
He added: “I think you have the moral responsibility, anyone. Not whether you’re a football coach or a university president or the guy sweeping the building. I think you have a moral responsibility to call us.”
Not a bad policy, unfortunately most organizations do not have it.
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