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The Department of Health and Human Services' Death Panel
Forbes ^ | 11-6-11 | Forbes Staff

Posted on 11/06/2011 1:20:45 PM PST by Driftwood1

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1 posted on 11/06/2011 1:20:52 PM PST by Driftwood1
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2 posted on 11/06/2011 1:25:03 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Driftwood1

BUT all the DC pundits told us Palin was crazy! There was NO SUCH thing as “Death Panels”!
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3 posted on 11/06/2011 1:25:10 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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We’ve got commie fags and pedophiles on “panels” like this and yet when Barry needs more money, it’s the cops, fireman and teachers who ALWAYS take the hit. What’s up with that? For once I’d love to hear the commie ‘RATS whining that they’ll have to lay off people at the HHS or EPA if the Republicans don’t pass a tax increase. JUST ONCE!


4 posted on 11/06/2011 1:33:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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My grandfather was diagnosed with BPH thanks to a digital rectal exam, and prostate issues have plagued the men in my family for centuries. To deny all of the standard tests means that this government is declaring war against my family and me, as far as I’m concerned.


5 posted on 11/06/2011 1:35:25 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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As a survivor of prostate cancer, I can in a very qualified way, say that these Marxist nutcases are simply out to kill men beginning in their thirties — yes, thirties and beyond. Good way to reduce the costs of the Obamacare Marxist takeover program.

If it had not been for the excellent PSA test, someone else would be writing this post. Their premise is TOTALLY without merit or truth (in typical DemoRAT fashion). These lying Marxists are the bane of our great medical industry and the people of this country.

Let us hope the people of this country vote the Repub candidate into the Oval Office that will first off set up the dilution and subsequent destruction of the Obamacare sham and the included “death panels”.

How sick. Totally sick.


6 posted on 11/06/2011 1:41:09 PM PST by EagleUSA
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From the experience of some family members with BPH, they will wait until the male patient has increasingly frequent urination, then prescribe a pill. The problem, as I see it, is how to differentiate the benign condition from early cancer.

Is this just a case of not paying for it? The PSA test that I last saw on my husband’s lab reports was inexpensive, the time taken for the digital exam was short and as far as ultrasounds go, wouldn’t they only be used if something was enlarged?

Would you be able to have the tests routinely if you paid for them?


7 posted on 11/06/2011 1:48:06 PM PST by reformedliberal
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My husband was telling me that Dr. Oz thinks doctors should decide a very ill patient’s treatment/outcome (paraphrasing), rather than the family. I USED to think Dr. Oz was fairly OK, but this is disgusting.


8 posted on 11/06/2011 2:13:48 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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There are “experts” within the Obamacare monstrosity as well as in the British NHS and other similar socialized medicine bureaucracies who are determined to turn Medicare upside down. They would provide care and preventive medicine for the productive members of society and cut it off for the elderly. The idea has been around for a long time as an offshoot of eugenics. It would greatly reduce medical costs and ease the redistribution of income through very high estate taxes.


9 posted on 11/06/2011 2:26:04 PM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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Under our present system, I get yearly DREs and have my urologist on alert for family history. I’m young, so I’ll likely not see anything yet for another 10 years.

If Obamacare comes to fruition, my urologist likely won’t treat me for BPH considering this “panel” will knock it down to the same level as the common cold.

I’m on my knees every night praying to the Lord that SCOTUS shoots down Obamacare in total. If they do not, I fear my life won’t last much longer.


10 posted on 11/06/2011 2:34:25 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Obama and the democrats are evil.


11 posted on 11/06/2011 2:50:08 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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You really do have to question just what the motivation is when they make recommendations against screening for very curable cancers, such as breast and prostate cancer. Not everyone who is diagnosed is cured, but I routinely run into people who were diagnosed and treated for one or the other of these cancers 5, 10, 20, and even 25 years ago. There should be more and more people out there surviving with better screening and treatment methods.

These "experts" would move us back, not forwards, in our medical care.

12 posted on 11/06/2011 3:08:24 PM PST by susannah59
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13 posted on 11/06/2011 3:20:45 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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Thanks for posting relevant articles to FR. However, you are in the habit pf putting your screen name in the 'author' block when posting an article, thereby denying credit to the authors of the articles you post. In this case, Steve Forbes.
14 posted on 11/06/2011 3:21:14 PM PST by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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Not annually doing the PSA test will allow a lot of cancers to grow to dangerous levels.

My PSA was normal for several years but was up a bit on last years test. It was again higher on a 4 month repeat so a biopsy was done. Most of the biopsy bits had cancer so I had the prostate removed with surgery, not fun. If more than a year had passed, the cancer could have broken out of the gland and been a bigger problem to treat.


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Sebelius the abortion lover as the head of DHHS naturally wants to accelerate death, just like her appointer. I read the whole article and did not grasp how binding these recommendations are; if people are willing to pay can doctors still perform these tests? Of course, if 0hbummerCare becomes the law (HUGE SHUDDER) then I assume we will have no choice. But we cannot allow that to happen.

18 posted on 11/06/2011 4:52:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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You really do have to question just what the motivation is when they make recommendations against screening for very curable cancers ...

After squandering and looting the Social Security surplus put away by the Baby Boomer generation, it stands to reason that cutting short the Boomer's life expectancy will enable the political ruling class to get away with their heist.


19 posted on 11/06/2011 5:11:52 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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And just think....

this is just the beginning.


20 posted on 11/06/2011 5:52:34 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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