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1 posted on 11/04/2011 6:48:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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sounds like the same agency the Kenyan hired to get him into the white house!


2 posted on 11/04/2011 6:53:30 AM PDT by killermedic (Git some, baby)
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Ah, but 100% of the tuition checks are good!

That’s the only thing that really counts.


3 posted on 11/04/2011 6:55:24 AM PDT by proxy_user
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When I was an undergrad in computer engineering, I remember having more than one class where an Asian professor could not communicate. I have a pretty keen ear for dialects and accents, but these folks were just outright illiterate. Yet, they were allowed to teach.

I failed one class, because I literally could not understand the instructor. I would stay after for help, but even then he would just stand at the board writing equations and theorems without explaining anything. When I failed exams, I would stay after and ask for explanations, and he would just go to the board and write down the correct way to solve the problems.

I wound up leaving engineering altogether for English, and I have no regrets. For all of the engineering classes where I could understand the professor, I absorbed a lot of information and still use it today. Asian immigrants should be forced to take ESOL or English-competency exams before being allowed to register for classes.


4 posted on 11/04/2011 6:57:38 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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The Chinese are also experts at reverse engineering, patent violations, copyright violations, product counterfeiting, industrial espionage, and other related activities.

No surprise that they apply similar skills to the college admissions process.


5 posted on 11/04/2011 7:03:14 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind

Being immersed in an environment of conversational english is one of the reasons they come here to learn. After a couple of months here, they speak pretty well.


6 posted on 11/04/2011 7:03:33 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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What is the graduation rate for this group of students?

How does this group compare to various home grown student groups?

The dropout rate comparison?


7 posted on 11/04/2011 7:03:55 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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and 100% of the universities don’t give a rip because they are being paid cash money


9 posted on 11/04/2011 7:14:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, that’s OK, because much of the “education” they will receive is fake.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 7:16:13 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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I live in Maine, and many of the high schools here have international programs.

The parents of the foreign students pay as much as $40,000 per year to have their sons and/or daughters attend a public high school in small Maine towns. Many of these kids are from China, but others are from Vietnam, Estonia, Singapore, Japan, and numerous other countries. The American students and their foreign counterparts get along well. Some of the kids live in dorms while others live with host families.

It’s true that many of these students come here to improve their English language skills. Their parents apparently have a very high opinion of the American educational system and have said as much.

The Chinese students have said they prefer the American system. In China, they say, the instructor comes into the room, gives a lecture, the students take notes, and then the instructor leaves. The Chinese students like the give and take in the American classrooms better, where students are encouraged to ask questions and have a discussion. They say this doesn’t happen in China.

At a library book sale in a small Maine town last year, I met a female high school student from China who was helping to collect the money from the sale of books. I started to chat with her.....her English was excellent. She told me that her home town in China has 7 million people, and she chuckled when I told her that the entire State of Maine has a population of only 1.3 million!


18 posted on 11/04/2011 7:25:21 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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19 posted on 11/04/2011 7:25:54 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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In the 1980’s, we began to see an influx of Chinese mainland graduate students at my university. After the Chinese government began to pay the graduate professors $1000/yr extra for each Chinese student they advised, the professors decided that Chinese nationals were eligible for in-state tuition and Missouri fellowships, funded from state tax revenues. The faculty starting giving preferential treatment to the Chinese students. One student was a notorious cheat, and didn't care who knew it. I asked to see an exam he had “aced” one day. The handwriting was easily recognizable-it belonged to our mutual advisor.
20 posted on 11/04/2011 7:31:17 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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Supply-and-demand should sort this out.

If, despite all the BS, the applicant passes 4 years of testing and can apply that education in a manner consistent with the certification, great.

If, behind all the BS, the applicant either can’t perform his way thru 4 years of the gauntlet, or can’t perform on the job, the scamming will dry up and find somewhere else to thrive.

Methinks these things have a way of sorting themselves out. Market forces at work - they may take a while, but they do work.


21 posted on 11/04/2011 7:31:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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Then the American students have to deal with the hostile and paranoid attitudes of those Chinese students!


26 posted on 11/04/2011 7:59:17 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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LOL...this is a well-known scam in the Pac-Rim area and Asian community in the U.S.A. Hard to believe its just now getting publicity in the U.S.A.


29 posted on 11/04/2011 8:07:20 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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But colleges being broken by the economic recession are also loving the influx of money from China's rising middle class.

Colleges' love of money is behind many of the imigration scandals too. And a lot of these foreign students are just spoiled brats too -- I'm speaking more about Middle Easterners here. When my youngest son was in grad school he was constantly coerced into repairing equipment broken by the Turks who dominated his lab. His advisor finally had to order him to stop heping people because it was interfering with finishing his PhD.

33 posted on 11/04/2011 9:26:16 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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