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To: Shethink13
Unfortunately, you understand nothing about how vaccinations work. "Herd immunity" is a joke. A vaccination protects only the person vaccinated. Period. Being vaccinated does not prevent you from carrying and/or spreading a virus. It does not create some super secret aura that the virus cannot penetrate.

Let me explain to you how this works:

Example 1: An unvaccinated child contracts pertussis. The child comes into contact with 19 other children, all of whom have been vaccinated. The child is very sick, recovers, but no other child contracts the disease.

Example 2: An unvaccinated child contracts pertussis. The child comes into contact with 19 other children, none of whom have been vaccinated. 5 of the other 19 children contract the disease, and pass it on to 5 children each, and so on...an epidemic is started.

Get it now?

236 posted on 11/05/2011 6:09:32 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Get it now?

Don't get you hopes up.

(How ya been?!)

238 posted on 11/05/2011 6:14:21 PM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: NittanyLion

Example 1: An unvaccinated child contracts pertussis. The child comes into contact with 19 other children, all of whom have been vaccinated. The child is very sick, recovers, but no other child contracts the disease.

Example 2: An unvaccinated child contracts pertussis. The child comes into contact with 19 other children, none of whom have been vaccinated. 5 of the other 19 children contract the disease, and pass it on to 5 children each, and so on...an epidemic is started.

Your examples are not all inclusive. HPV vaccine would be one example of that.


241 posted on 11/05/2011 6:20:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: NittanyLion
Let me explain to you how this works:

1: An unvaccinated child contracts pertussis. The child comes into contact with 19 other children, all of whom have been vaccinated. The child is very sick, recovers, but no other child contracts the disease.

Example 2: An unvaccinated child contracts pertussis. The child comes into contact with 19 other children, none of whom have been vaccinated. 5 of the other 19 children contract the disease, and pass it on to 5 children each, and so on...an epidemic is started.

Get it now?

I perfectly understand how YOU think it works, I just don't agree.

What exactly would stop the vaccinated children from carrying the virus to other children? Just because they are unsymptomatic because they are immune does not mean they cannot carry and/or spread the pathogen. That is my point.

The vaccinated children have not "contracted" pertussis because their own antibodies destroy the antigen when it is introduced into their system. But a vaccine does not create a giant super secret shield that prevents them from harboring the pathogen in their nose, mouth, on their hands, etc.

I believe in freedom. If you want to vaccinate your children, you should do it. Just don't run that "herd immunity" jive past me in an attempt to bully me into following your prescription.

I could just as easily claim that your insistence on vaccinating against every pathogen you can think of is causing a rash of "superbugs" resistant to any treatment and causing much more severe symptoms than the original disease. Perhaps that is the reason for the resurgence of childhood diseases previously thought of as eradicated?

I have stated this before - microorganisms have been on this earth since the beginning of time and like all living things will find a way to survive. It's possible that your well-intentioned approach to disease prevention is in the long run causing more problems than it solves. But I'm certainly not going to smugly insist that you not vaccinate yourself or your children because of it.

255 posted on 11/05/2011 6:51:42 PM PDT by Shethink13
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