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Cold Fusion as a technology
Telopolis ^ | November 3 2011 | Haiko Lietz

Posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:12 AM PDT by Kevmo





Cold Fusion as a technology
Haiko Lietz 03.11.2011
Part 10: The Italian engineer Andrea Rossi has reportedly sold a 1-megawatt generator
In January 2011, at the University of Bologna, a generator has been presented which allegedly generated at the push clean energy from the cold fusion of nickel and hydrogen ( cold fusion in the Black Box? ). Ever since the Internet was tracked as a potential breakthrough in energy production moves in circles. Now, obviously is a reactor that can produce one megawatt of thermal power on the market. The estimates range from plain fraud and the beginning of the revolution in the energy sector .



The units of the 28th October 2011 Andrea Rossi has apparently kept his word. On 14 January 2011 he had announced that they have built a market-ready by October 2011, 1-megawatt generator. At that time, scientists at the University of Bologna, the reactor is measured by the Italian engineer and had come to a power output of 12 kilowatts .

On 28 October has now reportedly a known company not taken the megawatt prototype technology and purchased. According to the acceptance report of the reactor has five and a half hours without external power supply 470 kilowatts produced. Although this is only half the promised performance is sufficient, but not always, around 470 homes with energy supply. According to Rossi, throttling was necessary, as requested by customers to switch off the power supply. Upon approval, said he:
Think you can reach out to the hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent in nuclear fusion research in the attempt, a COP of 1.1. With 470 kilowatts without any fuel, we now have a theoretically infinite capacity figure reached. I think this is a breakthrough. Of course this is just the first step. But it is a very important first step .

Andrea Rossi
Rossi and his co-author Sergio Focardi of the University of Bologna explain the energy production by the cold fusion of nickel and hydrogen. A radiation physicist Universtät of Bologna has confirmed once again that no harmful radiation was detected. The rest of the measurements, however, was entirely in the hands of Italian engineers of the buyer. These were systematically by about 25 invited participants screened, because the buyer wants to remain unknown. Known is only the name of the engineer, who made the purchase, a certain Mr Domenico Fioravanti.

The megawatt generator in operation This lack is not only scientifically unsatisfactory, as the insider and archivist of the field of Jed Rothwell comments
The polite skeptics will say that Rossi has not adduced any incontrovertible proof of his allegations. I must agree. He could do that easily, but has decided against it. ... If you the [acceptance report] believes the matter is clear. A measurement error is excluded. I believe it, but I must also admit that there could be a gigantic and expensive hoax. I admit that this is a tiny chance. There is no independent evidence that the document is genuine .

Jed Rothwell
One of those who Rossi assume a fraud , is the professional journalist Steve Krivit New Energy Times of service industry. However, no evidence he has. Wants to realize who gets the impression of a hard-working engineer who is obsessed with an idea, a technology and divulge any secrets here - who has watched Rossi - what he writes in his blog how he experiments with presents and treats people. He has refused large sums of money and even his house sold , to develop the megawatt reactor. Display

If there is any evidence of fraud, would the scientists at the University of Bologna, which examines the reactor and a research contract with Rossi srl company EON and Leonardo Corporation have signed to put the reputation of the oldest university in Europe reckless risk. Giuseppe Levi of the University of Bologna, the experiment was of 28 October 2011 an "independent" and "further proof that it works "(highlighted by Levi). He wants to comment on allegations of fraud against non Telepolis: "In science, facts and the truth always win."
Several experiments this year
After the experiment on 14 January 2011 there was a series of further came, in part or failed independent tests. On 29 March Sven Kullander of the Swedish Uppsala University participated and Hanno Essén by the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology ( interview ) participated in an experiment in Bologna. As Levi before she had the opportunity to inspect all components except for the approximately 50 cubic centimeters in diameter reactor chamber .

Since they had measured the energy output of 25 kilowatt hours, shut them out of any chemical energy source, "The only alternative explanation is that the measured energy is generated by a nuclear reaction." In July, Rossi exchanged and scientists at Uppsala University from a potential research project. In parallel, Rossi had the research department of the U.S. space agency appealed . Tests in which NASA scientists were present in September are, according to New Energy Times, however, failed. NASA sees in Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, the technical term for phenomena such as cold fusion, the "currently most interesting and most promising [technology sector]."

Andrea Rossi-megawatt einer Anlage. Bild: Massimo Brega / Focus / Focus.it

The last test prior to acceptance of demonstrate with Rossi wanted the reactor can produce without a supply of energy, took place on 6 October. Available data from this experiment that is just because the journalist Mats Lewan NyTeknik of the connected measuring instruments had read. Rossi initially wanted only to show that the reactor will remain hot for hours without power supply .

That he did this and also the temperature at times even dramatic rise is proof enough for Rothwell anomalous for energy production. Ultimately, Rossi fact that he has not considered tips to improve the measurement arrangement, helped also that this experiment is measured technically challenged. "The experiment was closer to be credible, than ever before," concludes the Americans Horace Heffner, "only a few changes would have made a big difference." Rossi is not a scientist - Focardi not even know the secret, the secret catalyst. Rossi is one solely for the market .

Who is the buyer?
According to Rossi, the pilot plant has now been handed over to the buyer. A second would be delivered in three months to another customer. Next year he wants with his company, 30-100 plants build. Who should buy one wants to report .

Originally the test was on 28 October, along with the Greek consortium Defkalion green technologies are implemented. Defkalion had visited on a prominent press conference on 23 June 2011 its product for the generation of "cheap and clean heat energy" on the basis of Rossi's invention presented. Defkalion and Rossi but have now separated .

However, this may come in competition, because, although Rossi said that the technology has not Defkalion, the Greeks sought at the market. An own-megawatt reactor is to be completed later this year and in early 2012 production going. Rossi now has patent protection in Italy, but still no international patent. And he is determined to protect his secret. According to own statements , he developed a process that destroyed the reactor core, if anyone tries to open it.

Meanwhile, speculation run wild, which is the organization that has purchased the first reactor. The speculation goes in two directions: first, contains the published Excel file , in which the purchaser has evaluated the data, the document properties under the business entry "Manutencoop Facility Management". As a company , the air-conditioning, refrigeration, fire protection systems and electrical and lighting systems for large building complexes offering , it has great need for effective heat energy, which of course can also convert it into electricity .

The second track leads towards the military. About Colonel engineer Domenico Fioravanti, who made the purchase for the customer, writes Rossi, he was an engineer for NATO with 30 years experience with heat measurements. NyTeknik reporter Levan has detailed talk with Fioravanti and confirms that this has deep knowledge about thermal plants. Fioravanti was also the test of the 6th October as "consultants" present .

Upcoming research projects
If Rossi's company generates revenue, it is also a two-year research project started with the University of Bologna. The group led by Professor Levi is ready to study in the first year of operation of the reactor and try to explain to him the second year. Also, negotiations with the University of Uppsala be resumed. Who wants to wait as a buyer or a journalist for an academic evaluation according to the rules of art, will have to wait two years .

The significance of all current development Terry Blanton has on the vortex-l mailing list, aptly summarized :
If it is a scam, it will probably be Rossi's last. There is a lot of money has been spent. If not, the kids of Occupy says Wall Street that we have a new way to keep them warm .

Terry Blanton
Telepolis > Science


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21 posted on 11/04/2011 4:14:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad; Kevmo
Please, do tell.

I have some tidbits: Kevmo supports Homeopathic medicines

Dr. Josephson provides the theory for how the water molecules retain their 'memory' after being shaken.

Dr. Josephson provides the theory for how Rossi's reactor works.

Kevmo sets up INTRADE accounts, goes long and then spams like heck.

I have no idea how or even if Kevmo profits from his pro-homeopathic medicine posts.

22 posted on 11/04/2011 4:24:20 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

hehe. Kevmo is an idiot. He’s proven that. Gullible beyond stupid.


23 posted on 11/04/2011 4:56:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: NewinTexsas
Why have you so pointedly failed to answer my query in post #16?

So who would put their money into the hands of a proven loser surrounded with allegations and convictions for fraue?

Plenty of the greatest business people in history frequently lost money and had their share of failed ventures. So your question is nonsense. You repeat a claim of "conviction for fraud" but you ignored my query for evidence to support your charge, nor did you respond to my own skepticism on that point of interpretation. So I'm asking again. Please stop emoting and start giving some logical, accurate information. Do you know how to construct a logical argument?

24 posted on 11/04/2011 6:51:54 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Kevmo
Let them speak foolishly and don't bother about them. Just keep investigating and letting the facts reach the light of day for everyone to see.

Every prudent man acts with knowledge, but a fool displays folly. (Prov. 13:16)

25 posted on 11/04/2011 6:58:57 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Liberty1970

” Just keep investigating and letting the facts reach the light of day for everyone to see. “

Keep investigating? Facts? He just posts blogs as news and keeps repeating the same propaganda and lies over and over. There hasn’t been any news, yet, there are 1-4 daily threads about Rossi that he posts.


26 posted on 11/04/2011 7:13:48 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad

there are 1-4 daily threads about Rossi that he posts.
***So what’s yer problem? Don’t read them. Did I ping you to these threads or something like that? NO.


27 posted on 11/04/2011 7:53:59 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: NewinTexsas

I have some tidbits: Kevmo supports Homeopathic medicines
***I am SO glad I gave up on you.


28 posted on 11/04/2011 7:55:23 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Liberty1970

Do you know how to construct a logical argument?

***No he does not. Unfortunately, it does not mean that there is no logic behind his inability to formulate an argument. So the situation calls for patience. Sometimes I run out of patience for those who cannot construct a logical argument.


29 posted on 11/04/2011 7:57:46 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: All; y'all; et al

Kevmo sets up INTRADE accounts,

***Still on my home page

How I Made Money from Cold Fusion
Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:28:49 PM · by Kevmo · 28 replies · 1,013+ views
Exclusive Article for Free Republic | 1/23/10 | Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts


30 posted on 11/04/2011 7:59:37 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: NewinTexsas

You do recall that I gave up on you when you went off the deep end, don’t you? So why do you keep pinging me? Oh, you must need reminders or something like that.


31 posted on 11/04/2011 8:01:46 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: NewinTexsas

Keep on posting, pasquinade. Prove to the lurkers why I gave up on you.


32 posted on 11/04/2011 8:02:49 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: NewinTexsas

then all bets are off
***Naturally you take the whole thing out of context, probably didn’t even read the statement, proving why it was wise to give up on you.
T4BTT


33 posted on 11/04/2011 8:04:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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34 posted on 11/04/2011 8:13:48 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Liberty1970

The same article was reposted on MSNBC

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35 posted on 11/04/2011 11:58:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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36 posted on 11/05/2011 8:12:29 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: All
It appears that the relationship between Rossi and the University of Bologna isn't as close as Rossi indicated:

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg54321.html

This statement has been added to some of the articles on Rossi, such as the Daily Mail one. I assume it is really from the press office. It sounds like it:

The University of Bologna is not involved on E-Cat experiments conducted by Leonardo Corp., the company owned by Andrea Rossi. The University of Bologna states also that: 1) none of the experiments made with E-Cat (including that of 28th October 2011) has been carried out at the University of Bologna or by any of its scientists; 2) the University of Bologna (Department of Physics) is ready to carry out direct experiments on the E-Cat as soon as the contract signed with EFA Srl (Andrea Rossi's Italian company) will be put in effect: this is the only reason why the University of Bologna researchers attended as observers to E-Cat experiments. The University of Bologna is carefully following the situation development.

- University of Bologna Press Office, Bologna, Italy, 5/11/2011 5:20


37 posted on 11/05/2011 1:19:18 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I think I see where you’re coming from now.


38 posted on 11/05/2011 11:14:30 PM PDT by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Johnny B.
The University of Bologna states also that: 1) none of the experiments made with E-Cat (including that of 28th October 2011) has been carried out at the University of Bologna or by any of its scientists;

So all the claims that they were carried out at the university were fraudulent. How many red flags are needed for people to see Rossi for what he really is?

I've posted before how pictures of the October 6th test look to be inside a house. They probably were.

39 posted on 11/06/2011 12:05:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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