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To: MHGinTN
I caught Rove on Hannity today.

This is what the Japanese call 本音 and 建前.  (honne vs. tatemae).

The former is what one says just for the public, or to make a good image, or keep things peaceful. The latter is what one REALLY thinks and does, what is hidden, what is the true intent.

In that interview today, which is classic, Rove started out in the most conciliatory, gentle, friendly, praising, (bullshit) manner in discussing "Herman". This was his 建前. You could tell from the tone of his voice he did not mean it.

Then the interview continued and the tone of his voice began to change. He could not agree with Hannity that it had been unfair or gone on too long.

His voice started to escalate. Then he started in on the "this thing wont go away", and "gotta get out there in front of it", and all kinds of mennjuufukuhai type statements. Words said one thing which betrayed the real intent.

I suspect this guy.

Above anyone else.

He knows how to back channel, destroy people, stir the DC/Beltway media shit storm, then stand back and watch it all implode, but maintain a demeanor as if he had nothing to do with it.

I learned more from that brief Hannity interview today with Karl Rove than I think I ever learned. He was praising Herman whilst smacking him. It is so apparant he does not want Herman Cain to be the nominee for some reason. And out there, indeed, there is a SHCM (Stop Herman Cain Movement). They would have pulled this stuff against Duncan Hunter four years ago, but since he never went past Gandhi's Phase 1 (they basically ignored him, maybe a little ridicule here and there), he was never a true threat, so they did not need to smear him. Herman has moved up incredibly in the numbers in a most unconventional way, bypassing a whole system of slick political professionals, consultants, toadies, hangers on, beltway insiders, etc. and he has cut them out of the action $$$$), and they do NOT take kindly to this! We have not heard the last from this segment of the Republican Establishment, believe me. I wonder what their next move will be? One thing is for sure, they will need to maintain maximum plausible deniability, but I think we are in a new age here cyber-wise, where they can and will eventually be unmasked and it will backfire in their faces.

22 posted on 11/03/2011 9:28:10 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mr. Cain: Back on message now; let the rest of us ferret out the gutter crap who planted that smear)
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addendum:

本音 (honne), what one really thinks

建前 (tatemae) what is said for public consumption, i.e. basically a lie or a mistruth committed for a larger intent in mind

25 posted on 11/03/2011 9:30:56 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mr. Cain: Back on message now; let the rest of us ferret out the gutter crap who planted that smear)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I call them ‘spittle ghosts’ because they spittle forth poison while seeking to remain ‘outside of the realities’.


26 posted on 11/03/2011 9:32:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This is such a great post... don’t know where to begin...except to say that yes I agree “I suspect this guy”.


47 posted on 11/03/2011 10:10:53 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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