Posted on 11/02/2011 9:36:37 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
Oklahoma political consultant Chris Wilson says if the woman behind the reported sexual harassment complaint against GOP Presidential hopeful Herman Cain is allowed to speak publicly, it'll be the end of Cain's run for the White House.
Interviewed today on KTOK's Mullins in the Morning, Wilson, of Wilson-Perkins-Allen Opinion Research headquartered in Washington, D.C. explained he was a witness to the incident. "I was the pollster at the National Restaurant Association when Herman Cain was head of it and I was around a couple of times when this happened and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the time, knew that this was gonna come up."
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Is it a Lifetime made for TV movie yet? “The boss told me to hire someone with big breasts”?
Do you eat where you shit too? How’s that working out for you?
“She started to cry and told me one of the cooks cornerd her and groped her.”
Thats sexual assault by a coworker,,, not sexual harrassment by someone in a position of power. Taught her to run away,, good move. Someone needed to call the police, or go punch the guy in the nose. Congratulations on letting him get away with it to do it again and again.
you are so right. He looks like one of the pretty boys who has never had dirt under his fingernails. He makes his living feeding off the parasite class in government.
He may well have signed a confidentiality agreement. Many organizations, particularly those that are politically active (and any organization wiht a "pollster" on staff is certainly politically active), require employees to sign confidentiality agreements upon leaving the organization. Or, if he was at all involved in the matter/investigation/settlement discussions, he may be bound by the confidentiality provisions in the settlement.
LOL,,, that the best you can do? Well,, gotta go, i don’t like to argue with women.
I’m with you right up until you say “apparantly this woman was paid to go quietly”. You don’t know this. Sometimes companies simply pay up to make an accuser go away. I don’t agree with the practice because this is what can happen.
I was a civil servant supervisor of a mature black woman. She did not do her job. My performance appraisal reflected same. Result: She did not get a bonus. She accused me of age, gender and race discrimination. It went to arbitration. She could not prove anything because there was nothing to prove. In fact, the record showed that I had bent over backwards (its always a good idea to have your own witness when counseling an employee) to work with her.
So what does the government do? They give her the bonus after changing my performance appraisal (illegal). There were two provisos: 1. She had to retire immediately. 2. She would never bring suit on this matter again.
A scumbag like Wilson can twist that situation any which way because most people have no idea how the system actually works.
And to those “where there is smoke there is fire” numbnuts I say sit on it.
I’ve never been hit on by a female supervisor or employee. But I’ve seen women hit on their bosses. I worked for an Army Colonel. Young lady hits on him and they have an affair. It only ended when he was reassigned. This woman could have crucified him if she had chosen to do so. I would not have shed a tear for the man either.
Get a grip. Desperate? It’s November for crying out loud. Perry’s fine for now and I still expect him to win. Cain, however, is done for. he won’t recover. Celebrate his good poll numbers today and then talk to me in 2 weeks.
“Perry’s fine for now and I still expect him to win. Cain, however, is done for. he won’t recover.”
What was the name of Perry’s hunting camp again? I forget? It’s a joke to me,, but it looks like offsetting penalties at best.
We can't listen to the Democrats or establishment Republicans on anything negative about Cain. It's time to ask yourself if you support Obama, Romney, or Cain for President because that's who it's down to. The media can't do anything to hurt Cain if we don't allow them.
This “high-tech lynching” technique that liberals pull every time a black Conservative threatens their hold on the black population has no impact whatsoever on my support for Cain. They know the black Conservative public figures will hurt their slave hold on the minds of the majority of blacks. They don't want to actually help the black community because helping them will cause more independence, and less dependence on government which hurts democrat politicians.
Cain is going to be attacked so severe it's not going to be comparable to what they did to Thomas, and they have a lot of establishment Republicans willing to help them out this time. I will help do everything I can to change the GOP leadership\establishment to a Conservative principled one, or destroy it in the process. We are sick of always picking the candidate who's not as bad as the other, but also not any good. That's what we have had for way too long. It's easy for those guys to look a lot better than radical liberals like Obama, but we can't keep supporting people just because they aren't as bad. All that's getting us is candidates from both parties who are further to the left. Now we have radical anti-American democrats, and liberal Republicans to choose from. That's not acceptable.
Just imagine having a Republican primary with several Conservative candidates running for us to debate and argue over, instead of having to do everything we can to fend off liberal Republicans instead. Guy's who not only talk Conservative, but have a history backing that talk instead of having to defend their liberal past. It would be nice having debates about the Conservative candidate you support, but being able to easily accept another Conservative candidate if your guy lost the nomination. Conservatives do have differences with each other that have nothing to do with the liberalism we are always having to fight within the party.
Like I said before, this issue with Cain means nothing to me no matter what actually did, or didn't, happen. I just don't care. What am I suppose to do? Decide to support a liberal candidate over the Conservative one because of something that will have no affect on the political issues I care about?
Herman Cain isn't perfect, but no one is and he's a huge change from the career politicians that have always been forced on us. He's right on the most important issues facing the nation, so I can accept any other disagreements I may have with him. There will never be a completely perfect candidate for me, or most people, considering I am the only person I agree with 100% of the time on the issues, just like almost everyone else who think for themselves. I think it's obvious who the Conservative is in this race, and who will be closer to Conservatives on the issues overall compared to most of the other Republican candidates, and without a doubt over the other front runner, Romney. None of these issue's can hurt Cain if we don't let them. We also can't be quite either, but defend, AND ATTACK those who will do everything to stop this man.
I would like these smears on Cain to always be met by a donation, no matter how little, by us Conservatives who support him. I made yet another small donation just because of these attacks although I didn't plan to donate until Friday when I will be able to make a much more significant donation. These small donations I've made won't affect the amount I'm donating Friday either, and they do help.
I started out ignorantly thinking my small donations were a waste of time, before realizing how stupid that way of thinking was. They add up, and just image the amount those “small” donations to Cain's campaign make up when combined, and to the negative affect they would have on his campaign if taken away. I finally saw that if I thought it was a waste to donate if I wasn't able to donate a larger amount of money to the campaign, I might as well not “waste” my time voting either since I only get one.
Let's send a message that these attacks only get us fired up in our donating and campaigning for the guy. The more they do to beat him, the more I'll do to get him the Republican nomination, and then the Presidency. I know it's hard for a lot supporters to donate at this time because they have already been doing so, but I think there are enough of us that even the smallest donations will add up, and make the difference in this campaign. There are going to be so many major attacks on Cain I don't know if it's even possible for the wealthiest Cain supporters among us to make the smallest donations each time without going bankrupt before he becomes the next President though lol.
https://www.hermancain.com/donate
I see another Obama or liberal Republican win as a serious, and maybe fatal, blow to the Conservative movement and eventually the nation. If we had a Conservative Republican establishment we wouldn't have the unfortunate infighting, and would beat Obama easily without any doubt at all. We wouldn't even have the liberal Republicans wasting their time running for the nomination.
The fact is, just like democrats, there are Republicans who just listen to the establishment and do what they are told. A lot of the people out there supporting Romney are probably real Conservatives(or think they are anyway), but their lack of information keeps them with the establishment. They just don't pay enough attention while looking more closely at the candidates themselves, or they just believe in what certain Republicans they have always trusted tell them. I hope those people are informed, and realize what they are supporting before it's too late.
I think most people here have supported liberal Republicans in the past for some reason they now regret. I know I have. Some of the Republican liberals have lied to us without the history showing us we should doubt their Conservatism, but it's usually because of having no better alternative. A lot Conservatives have done it in the past because without Conservative support these liberal Republicans wouldn't have won. It's usually done from either being too ignorant about at least some of the issues\candidates, voting for the lesser of two evils is the probably the main reason for informed Conservatives; not doing enough thinking for themselves and relying to much on people they thought were true Conservatives(what I ignorantly did when I first started getting interested in politics), etc.
The fact is most of us have supported liberal Republicans if we have ever voted because there wasn't any other option. It's easy to see the problem when you start lying to yourself about John McCain, trying to convince yourself he's something you know he isn't, but it's not nearly as hard when you compare him to Obama, but then again it's not hard for anyone near the Presidency from either party to look good compared to Obama. It's pretty bad when you see Republicans start wishing for the days of Bill Clinton. Obama isn't the first horrible President, but I think it's obvious he's the only one who has a real hatred for everything good this country stands for.
Herman Cain is our last chance at getting a Conservative in the White House, and we can't let our support waver like the liberals of both party want. This is just a ploy to get Romney the nomination, so he can go on to lose to Obama. Herman Cain isn't losing my support anytime soon no matter what. I'm supporting the only Conservative with a chance to win we have left. Herman Cain for President 2012!
I have something to say about this story and it might as well go in this thread . . .
A charge of sexual harassment seems perfectly plausible given Cain’s position as head of an industry association. More likely, the charge isn’t really “harassment” per se, but probably along the lines of “inappropriate behavior” and it was likely leveled by someone who didn’t fit in well in the organization. Things aren’t always as they seem and you need to understand the nature of association work to see how this sort of thing happens.
I worked for an association for years. This work environment is ripe for these sorts of accusations and paying people a severance to get rid of problems is quite common.
Associations are unique businesses. You have a close-nit, almost family-like staff that works long hours in strange settings. You’re constantly doing out-of-town meetings, seminars, etc. There’s lots of travel with mixed gender groups. There’s a lot of activity that goes on in the evening at banquets, receptions, trade-shows, hospitality rooms, etc. Most of these events involve alcohol.
Where it gets really interesting is that your core association staff must play host for a large membership. These guys — in Herman Cain’s case, they would be restaurant owners — show up at a convention or meeting and they’re ready to have some fun. They sometimes get a little wound up, especially at the evening functions. The alcohol is flowing and they’re away from home. It’s time to let their hair down a bit. You’ve heard that “what stays in Vegas” line. The same is equally true of association functions, no matter where they’re held.
On top of everything else, women play a special role in association work. In my experience, the ladies are often key staff members at this function. They do a lot of the grunt work, but they’re also there to be sociable. They chit-chat up the members and maybe even help serve drinks at smaller, private functions like hospitality suites or president’s receptions.
In some ways associations tend to be somewhat sexist in their outlook on women, but by the same token, a lot of women with limited education and professional background are able to rise through the ranks and have successful careers in association work. I’ve seen women earning salaries that no man with a similar resume would match. They often owe their success not so much to their competency at typing but their skill at being gracious and fun. Frankly, a lot of the actual work isn’t that technical or demanding. There’s just a lot of it. If they can hustle, and fit it and the members like them, they do well. Even more so if they look good doing it.
None of this is to suggest any real impropriety. In 20 years working for an association I was never aware of any staff member having sex with a member . . . not that was proven or even obvious anyway. That’s not what I’m suggesting at all. Still, there is sometimes flirting and off-color humor. Part of the skill set of an association employee is to walk a sometimes treacherous line between fun and too much fun. Sometimes people cross that line but there is an understanding of forgiveness and trust inherent in these sorts of settings.
Typically, CEOs and association executives keep a low profile after hours. They retire to their suites early or host only the most trusted friends in their inner circle. It’s the staff’s job to wallow in the gutters with the membership but there’s always some exposure to the CEO.
That leads me back to Cain. I can easily see how some some young woman might have gotten hired by the association and thrust into the world of conventions, hotels, late-night hospitality rooms, etc. and not really been that comfortable with the environment. There may have situations that made here uncomfortable and she may have raised a bit of a stink about them.
In association work that sort of complaint marks someone as “not a team player.” They’re dangerous and not somebody you want around. So, when the time comes you find a way to get rid of them. Maybe you don’t fire them, but you offer them a way out. You pay them to go away. And, you ask them to sign a non-disclosure agreement.
Knowing what I do about association work, I’d say we have a case of a square peg that didn’t fit in a round hole. Somehow, charges against Cain played into this. I don’t think it says anything about the man. He seems like an honest, decent man. I don’t think he’s the type to make untoward advances to a subordinate. But association work is a veritable mine field. There are some many things that happen that could look bad or be taken the wrong way.
In truth, I’d say anyone who has worked near the upper levels of the corporate world understands this situation all to well. I suspect there’s basically nothing to see here. There’s certainly nothing compared to some of the behavior that politicians have been accused of.
The Perrywinkle Girls love that tough talk, helps cover up the fawning and the fact that Mr. heading to 5 % is a dog that won't hunt for actual Conservatives.
In the interest of accuracy...it was never the name of the "Perry" hunting camp. It was the name of the property that Perry's father leased. Once Perry senior leased the land the rock was painted over, and when the offensive name showed through the rock it was dug up and turned over.
Smearing Perry for this is like me calling your mother a whore because the house she grew up in was a bordello before her daddy bought it! It's inaccurate, unfair and beneath the dignity of good people to do so.
I’m done with voting “best alternative” every election. I support Cain, and if what you claim is true, I’ll be sitting this one out. I’ve learned politics becomes less stressful when you support candidates because they represent your beliefs. It’s when you support candidates because you fear the alternative that the stress gets out of control.
Good informative thoughtful post. Your turn now for some purile abuse,, :)
Jerks are out there, for sure. At this point, it is not illegal to be a jerk.
But somewhere our country crossed the line from prosecuting criminal behavior into insanity. ANY woman can accuse ANY man of being inappropriate with no proof, and just the accusation is enough to cast doubt on an innocent man for the rest of his life. I think that is bullshit.
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