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1 posted on 11/01/2011 3:27:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 11/01/2011 3:30:21 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: neverdem

Al Gore is deeply saddened.


3 posted on 11/01/2011 3:41:13 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: neverdem
From my observation and readings, the important thing to remember is climate is always changing - sometimes warming, sometimes cooling. It seems to be a function of solar activity, and there is also a long range cyclic property and patterns that are easy to see.

I am no scientist, just an old man who is always seeking some knowledge.

5 posted on 11/01/2011 3:50:32 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: neverdem
From my observation and readings, the important thing to remember is climate is always changing - sometimes warming, sometimes cooling. It seems to be a function of solar activity, and there is also a long range cyclic property and patterns that are easy to see.

I am no scientist, just an old man who is always seeking some knowledge.

6 posted on 11/01/2011 3:51:02 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: neverdem

Who can believe anything from a group whose name starts with “Berkeley”?


7 posted on 11/01/2011 3:54:19 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: neverdem

This should have a barf alert based on the conclusions, and to think I used to respect Reason & Bailey.


8 posted on 11/01/2011 3:56:06 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: neverdem
Just think how bad the October Blizzard of 2011 would have been if we had not spent Trillions of taxpayer dollars on alternate power sources.

Instead of two million homes without electric it would probably be three million. No - wait! Probably six million! Or maybe even twenty or thirty million.


9 posted on 11/01/2011 4:04:51 PM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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“Were global warming proponents cherry-picking temperature data to bolster their claims that the world was becoming substantially warmer”

The magic 8 ball says “Without a doubt”.


10 posted on 11/01/2011 4:09:45 PM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: neverdem

There is folly in trying to reduce the vast and complex atmosphere to one number, a global temperature.


11 posted on 11/01/2011 4:16:05 PM PDT by DManA
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Oh, just statistical "quibbling". This is not a guy who can be trusted to write about complicated scientific subjects.

While statistical quibbling about its results will occur,

12 posted on 11/01/2011 4:19:43 PM PDT by DManA
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Were global warming proponents cherry-picking temperature data to bolster their claims that the world was becoming substantially warmer...

That is an extremely minimal, sanitized summary of Climategate.

Try Lord Monckton's summary instead:

• The Climate Research Unit at East Anglia had profited to the tune of at least $20 million in “research” grants from the Team’s activities.
• The Team had tampered with the complex, bureaucratic processes of the UN’s climate panel, the IPCC, so as to exclude inconvenient scientific results from its four Assessment Reports, and to influence the panel’s conclusions for political rather than scientific reasons.
• The Team had conspired in an attempt to redefine what is and is not peer-reviewed science for the sake of excluding results that did not fit what they and the politicians with whom they were closely linked wanted the UN’s climate panel to report.
• They had tampered with their own data so as to conceal inconsistencies and errors.
• They had emailed one another about using a “trick” for the sake of concealing a “decline” in temperatures in the paleoclimate.
• They had expressed dismay at the fact that, contrary to all of their predictions, global temperatures had not risen in any statistically-significant sense for 15 years, and had been falling for nine years. They had admitted that their inability to explain it was “a travesty”. This internal doubt was in contrast to their public statements that the present decade is the warmest ever, and that “global warming” science is settled.
• They had interfered with the process of peer-review itself by leaning on journals to get their friends rather than independent scientists to review their papers.
• They had successfully leaned on friendly journal editors to reject papers reporting results inconsistent with their political viewpoint.
• They had campaigned for the removal of a learned journal’s editor, solely because he did not share their willingness to debase and corrupt science for political purposes.
• They had mounted a venomous public campaign of disinformation and denigration of their scientific opponents via a website that they had expensively created.
• Contrary to all the rules of open, verifiable science, the Team had committed the criminal offense of conspiracy to conceal and then to destroy computer codes and data that had been legitimately requested by an external researcher who had very good reason to doubt that their “research” was either honest or competent.
source:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/01/lord-moncktons-summary-of-climategate-and-its-issues/

So did the BEST study somehow "end" all those issues? Of course not. This article employs the MSM's usual method of dealing with Climategate: ignore what really happened.

13 posted on 11/01/2011 6:25:53 PM PDT by TChad
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BEST received funding from the Bill Gates Foundation too, for whatever difference that makes. The study used the same data as the old study and came up with the same results. I'm impressed. Meanwhile, reality rolls on and the world gets cooler.
17 posted on 11/01/2011 9:45:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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19 posted on 11/01/2011 10:31:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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Just posted this from WUWT after scanning thru this:

A short anthology of changing climate

24 posted on 11/02/2011 10:08:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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