Posted on 11/01/2011 6:05:53 AM PDT by kristinn
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Whether you are talking about George McGovern in 1972, Jimmy Carter in 1976, Howard Dean in 2004, or even the second coming of McCain in 2008, they had considerably more of a campaign apparatus than Cain. Their campaigns were often unorthodox, but their actions were rarely random. They didn’t surge to the top based on seat-of-the-pants decisions.
In short, there was method to their madness. With Herman Cain’s candidacy, there hasn’t been. There has been minimal fundraising. There has been truly bizarre scheduling that only seemed to make sense in the context of selling autographed books at $100 apiece. (Why else would you go on a two-day bus trip of the length of Tennessee, which doesn’t vote until March 6)? My hunch is that Cain’s surge surprised no one more than Cain himself.
But there was more. Several weeks ago, word started circulating that Cain’s business record was not quite as impressive as he claims, specifically as it relates to his tenure as head of the National Restaurant Association. Some of his peers privately said that they were astonished at how he was being portrayed. They said that his less than three-year tenure (rather brief in the Washington trade-association world) was rocky and that the restaurant folks couldn’t get rid of him soon enough—possibly because of sexual-harassment allegations. They said it took some time to get the association back on sound financial footing after he left. Some who worked with Cain said that he spent considerable time running around the country giving speeches and that he was a policy lightweight, both internally and externally. But they hesitated to be more specific.
Sunday’s report in Politico that female subordinates complained of inappropriate behavior by Cain said they had received five-figure settlements to leave the restaurant association and keep quiet. This was little more than the shoe that many had been waiting to drop. Cain denied the allegations. But if there is documentation of any settlement, as there appears to be, his denial will hardly suffice.
This will probably be the beginning of the end for Cain’s surge, giving Perry something of a second wind. Perry had the funding, organization, and network to survive his tough period, although he remains damaged merchandise. It’s a decent bet that the GOP race will return to how it was after Perry stumbled but before Cain picked up steam. Perry has enough going for him to be the conservative alternative to front-runner Mitt Romney. Whether he can actually overtake the former Massachusetts governor is another matter, even though two-thirds of the GOP is more ideologically in tune with him than with the more “old establishment,” less-conservative Romney.
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MNJohnnie always has great posts.
He is the last viable conservative standing.
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Well, this FReeper who, at one time, could not stand Newt, could live with a President Gingrich. I think he could be BHO.
There is more to come.
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So, you’ve been talking to the Romney and Perry camps; eh?
I went as far as post no. 5 and ran into a pack of lies so left the thread. Sorry.
You have on your blinders and it is obvious, some refuse to see the truth.
FREEPERS!
Do not eat our own over this! We do not know the source and speculation is a waste of energy.
Liberals love it when we turn on each other!
Obama is the target-——STAY FOCUSED!!!
Stick your head in the sand.
Perry is about as corrupt as a guy can get.
He is a disaster.
I have produced evidence that Cain is a flip flopper. Here's the evidence on abortion. http://race42012.com/2011/10/26/cain-botches-abortion-answer-yet-again-pro-life-with-no-exceptions-but-a-family-will-make-that-choice/
Besides trying to make Romney the candidate - this is so bad because it's taking the spotlight off Obama & his totally incompetent administration.
>>But one has to wonder whether this was part of a well-planned effort by the GOP.<<
Well, one person knows the answer to that I’m guessing...Jonathan Martin, who wrote the original hit piece.
Now, is it fair game to besiege Martin with questions as to his sources? Or at least to ask him to characterize his sources? Or to find a leak inside Politico who will reveal Martin’s sources?
Of course it’s fair game. So, when will some intrepid reporter begin to play?
WTF?
>>If RINO Romney should win...the GOP is going to be shocked at the reaction. Obama will be re-elected.<<
I think you could be right. If Obama’s re-elected but the Senate goes Republican, I’m certain Obamacare will be defunded; if Romney’s elected, I’m not so certain, given his reluctance to do a flip flop on Romneycare (the one flip flop we want, he won’t do...why?)
Essentially, a vote for Romney could ensure that Obamacare is never repealed or defunded, because he could very well just decide to “tweak” it and could get his own party in the Congress to go along with him. This is a huge risk that, in my opinion, could justify a conservative voting for Obama. And then there’s all the other issues he’s switched positions on...
Yes, it is obvious you refuse to see the truth.
I think it will come out, eventually if not soon. I don’t expect it to be from Jonathan Martin but from someone at Politico or one of the GOP camps. perhaps a former Romney staffer or someone ‘in’ with Rove, say.
I’m still not sure one of the GOP candidates was involved, but it can’t be discounted. Romney is the one with a history of this (see my first post on this thread), so if it was an inside job, my money would be on him.
You haven’t seen any evidence of Perry’s crony corruption because you don’t wish too.
You quit reading at post #5 because you don’t want to take a look at the trainwreck he is.
Suit yourself.
I took the time to find out about him because I am not from Texas.
I don’t care for the picture I see.
Again, I provide proof that Cain is a flip flopper but you do not care about absolute proof--you are willing to ignore it because it does not fit your agenda. http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/do-we-really-know-who-herman-cain-is/
Do you have inside contacts at Politico or some other campaign?
We arent talking about Cain here. Our conversation was about Perry.
I don’t think a man infected with severe cronyism syndrome is any better than a flip flopper.
I can comfortably say Cain would be pro life.
I can’t say that Perry wouldn’t involve himself in crony politics. He has a very huge footprint stepping in it. It is all over the place.
It really is embarrassing.
That is the part of his being an ex democrap he didn’t give up apparently. He could make Algore blush.
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