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To: WilliamHouston
If Poland had ceded its rights to Danzig and acquiesced in the annexation of Danzig by Germany, then Hitler would have never invaded Poland and treated Poland like just another one of its satellites like Hungary, Croatia, and Slovakia.

You have no proof Hitler never would have invaded. If Germany had merely not allowed Poland access to Danzig, then maybe you could make that argument. If Germany just wanted Danzig, and that's all, they had no need to carve up Poland with the USSR. The U.K. would most likely NOT have intervened in that circumstance. The fact is Hitler toadies were ALREADY running Danzig. Germans weren't being oppressed by Poles. At most, Poles were given an access to a port. But all Hitler had to do was say the word and that would have ended. Hitler, in effect, already controlled Danzig.

44 posted on 11/01/2011 2:36:39 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“You have no proof Hitler never would have invaded. If Germany had merely not allowed Poland access to Danzig, then maybe you could make that argument.”

It is clear from the German archives that Hitler had no grand design on Poland and was only reacting to circumstances after he failed to get what he wanted which was Danzig and the Polish Corridor.

Hitler wanted an alliance with Poland, which is why he signed a non-aggression pact with Poland, not unlike the one he signed with the other countries in the region like Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.

“If Germany just wanted Danzig, and that’s all, they had no need to carve up Poland with the USSR.”

You are confusing the timeline.

Hitler sought out the alliance with Stalin because Poland refused to cede Danzig to Germany because it had been given the war guarantee from Chamberlain.

“The U.K. would most likely NOT have intervened in that circumstance.”

The UK intervened because it gave Poland the war guarantee. Poland refused to back down over Danzig because it had the war guarantee. Germany brokered the alliance with the Soviet Union because of that stupid war guarantee and partitioned Poland with the Russians.

It all goes back to the foolishness of the British and Polish governments. Chamberlain’s pride and the stupidity of Poland’s leaders.

“The fact is Hitler toadies were ALREADY running Danzig.”

The fact is, Danzig was not a part of Germany, even though it was a German city that wanted to be a part of Germany. The war came about because Poland which had a ridiculous whopping minority of 5 percent of the city refused to cede their rights to Germany.

“Germans weren’t being oppressed by Poles.”

If Boston was severed from Massachusetts and turned into a “free city” by a consortium of European powers, America wouldn’t have acted any differently from the Germans. The Germans were completely justified in annexing Danzig and the whole world would have been infinitely better off had they been allowed to do so.

“At most, Poles were given an access to a port. But all Hitler had to do was say the word and that would have ended. Hitler, in effect, already controlled Danzig.”

Danzig was not part of Germany. All the Poles had to do was to cede the stupid city - it was destroyed anyway in the war.

It was a GERMAN city. Danzig was more German than Chicago, New York City, Boston, Miami or Los Angeles are American. Even the United States recognized the injustice that had been done to Germany by Britain and France after WW1 by rejecting the Versailles Treaty.


49 posted on 11/01/2011 4:15:27 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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