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To: WilliamHouston; rmlew
No, I am saying that Britain shouldn’t have given the war guarantee to Poland.

Here is where Buchanan's third grade logic and ignorance of history trip you up.

There are 2 things you have consistently said:

1. England's war guarantee of Poland is the source of all the trouble's in the world. 2.Winston Churchill is the war monger who caused all the problems in the world.

One slight problem. Winston Churchill had no power and was not Prime Minister when the war guarantee was given.

OOPS! Pat Buchanan is so ignorant of history, he can't even look up a small fact in the encyclopedia. You can try to spin this every way you want, but your two slogans just don't mesh. So, before you employ M.C. Escher logic again, why don't you sit and think, maybe Buchanan sold you a bill of goods. He has to twist the facts to get his theories to work.

The whole, "it's all about the war guarantee," thing reminds me of Al Gore debating. What was it with him, the lock box. You can't use one minor thing to distract everyone from all the major one's. It just won't work.

105 posted on 11/03/2011 12:04:52 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“One slight problem. Winston Churchill had no power and was not Prime Minister when the war guarantee was given.”

One slight problem with that analysis ... I said that Chamberlain had extended the war guarantee to Poland, and he gave war guarantee to Poland largely to appease the war mongerers like Winston, who had criticized him and turned public opinion against him after Munich.

It was also Churchill’s debacle that resulted in the German invasion of Norway and Denmark.

“OOPS! Pat Buchanan is so ignorant of history, he can’t even look up a small fact in the encyclopedia.”

Laughs.

No, Buchanan is far smarter than you are and knows far more about the subject. Churchill was the leader of the warmongers in Britain and Chamberlain’s “get tough” policy was designed to appease them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

“In this job, he proved to be one of the highest-profile ministers during the so-called “Phoney War”, when the only noticeable action was at sea. Churchill advocated the pre-emptive occupation of the neutral Norwegian iron-ore port of Narvik and the iron mines in Kiruna, Sweden, early in the war. However, Chamberlain and the rest of the War Cabinet disagreed, and the operation was delayed until the successful German invasion of Norway.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill

“You can try to spin this every way you want, but your two slogans just don’t mesh. So, before you employ M.C. Escher logic again, why don’t you sit and think, maybe Buchanan sold you a bill of goods. He has to twist the facts to get his theories to work.”

The facts are that Neville Chamblerlain and Winston Churchill destroyed the British Empire, dragged America into the war, and “guaranteed” the destruction of Poland as well.


112 posted on 11/03/2011 12:18:28 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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