Posted on 10/31/2011 9:36:59 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
Where is the evidence of that?
All in all, I suppose some argument could be made that one is a, "committed Catholic," but would not care to defend the lives and rights to practice Catholicism of others, but just barely. I have my doubts. Personally, I think Buchanan's position is despicable, and he give anti-Catholics a bad name.
Czechoslovakia was neither a tyranny nor "hated" by non-Czechs under its rule. It was one of the few democracies in the region and while there were frictions, "hatred" is far too strong a word.
Again, maybe there are committed Catholics willing to overlook the kidnapping of the Pope. On the other hand, maybe people who think that's a justifiable hint are crazy.
Sadly, Mr Buchanan has traded his Catholicism for a deranged leftism, or something even more bizarre.
Hitler wanted war...if it was just about Danzig, he would have rolled into Danzig and the Corridor and left the rest of Poland alone.
Hitler was actually ticked off about Munich 1938, he was denied the chance to test his war machine in Czechoslovakia, he was not going to make that same mistake with Poland.
‘Doesnt Pat Buchanan work for his small-minded critics on the Left ? Last time I checked, ol Pitchfork Pat was a commentator on PMSNBC.’
‘Nice review. I agree with the premise: the Left has taken what was once a genuinely free country and corrupted it with a system of perpetual dependence on the government and decadence. Unless somehow the American people wake up to the failure of socialism and multiculturalism and act quickly, the United States will certainly go the way of Rome.
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True - and by looking at postings here, they’re rather discuss a book about WW II than confront the truth of what Buchanan wrote.
“The troll award goes to you with the first post to change the topic from the the subject of the book to Buchanan. Im sure you wont be the last.”
Pitchfork Pat wrote the book, did he not ? How on God’s green and cooling Earth is that changing the subject ?
No, that would not be the case at all. Pitchfork Pat supports Ron Paul. Ron Paul, in turn, gave his blessings to the OWS crowd in the last debate when he called the human debris “victims”. None of that is ad hominem, those are all easily proven facts.
My problem is with Pat Buchanan, who calls America “imperialist”. My problem with Ron Paul, is, well, Ron Paul.
And what does any of this have to do with the book or article?
You said I was making an ad hominem attack when I clearly am not.
Danzig or “Free City of Danzig” is what we know today as Gdansk.
Actually I don’t think Pat supports the “OWS barbarians”. What he’s against is crony capitalism and the people who engage in it, including Obama. This is about the ONLY thing that people outside of politiical power agree on across the board.
(1) What’s the use of a “strong military” that is deployed in Germany to defend Latvia from Russia and South Korea from North Korea and to police the wilds of Afghanistan when illegal aliens are allowed to invade Texas and Arizona?
(2) Laughs.
Just what exactly are these “conservatives” actually trying to “conserve”? Are they defending gay marriage like Ann Coulter? Writing for Frum Forum?
(3) Ayn Rand herself said that she WAS NOT a conservative.
(4) What matters is that they believe in God and are trying to preserve their culture and heritage. In that sense, Orthodox Jews are conservatives.
(5) Last time I checked, the Left’s ideal was “colorblindness” and “non-discrimination,” and it was the Left that invented the idea that America is a “proposition nation” or a “creedal nation” in the 1940s.
Ron Paul is like a broken clock. He has a few good ideas and lots of bad ideas. Paul is a principled libertarian. He isn’t a conservative though.
The United States is an empire. Are you kidding? Just how many military bases do we have overseas? How many troops do we have deployed overseas? How many foreign alliances are we entangled in now?
What do you call Puerto Rico? What about Guam? Of course America has an empire. The dollar is the world’s reserve currency because America is an empire.
“I forgot one thing: It’s very clear that Hitler intended to kidnap Pius XII and hold him prisoner, perhaps kill him.”
Did that ever happen?
“The Pope was doing nothing to impede Hitler from having his precious Danzig, the need for which excuses all other actions”
The only reason that Italy got involved in WW2 is because Britain and France declared war on Germany over Poland and Poland refused to negotiate because of the British war guarantee.
“Again, maybe there are committed Catholics willing to overlook the kidnapping of the Pope. On the other hand, maybe people who think that’s a justifiable hint are crazy.”
Speaking of committed Catholics, what happened to the committed Catholics of America? What about the committed Catholics of Poland, Italy, Spain, and France?
Isn’t Buchanan right that a third of Catholics in America have become apostates?
“Sadly, Mr Buchanan has traded his Catholicism for a deranged leftism, or something even more bizarre.”
Buchanan looks at Western Europe and sees the reality of the situation: a continent where Catholicism has evaporated in Italy, Spain, and France, which is being overwhelmed by Muslim immigrants, where Europeans can’t even be bothered to propagate themselves.
He also sees the reality of the situation in America: in the United States, over a third of Catholics have abandoned Catholicism, and we live in arguably what is one of the most degenerate societies that has ever existed in world history.
I guess that is what you call “victory.”
(1) Clearly, Hitler sought his “lebensraum” in the Soviet Union which he we went to war with anyway in 1941.
(2) Hitler had no desire to go to war with the West or with Poland. On the contrary, it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany, and who turned the conflict into a world war, and who dragged America into the conflict.
(3) In the narrative of German evil, Bohemia which had been part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire for centuries and Prague which had been the capital of the Holy Roman Empire was an “aggressive conquest” by “militarist Germany.”
In this narrative, the fact that Slovakia seceded from Czechoslovakia (twice) and Poland (the official good guy) also invaded Czechoslovakia is ignored, as is the invasion by Hungary.
(4) Pat is right on the facts: Hitler wanted to go to war with the Soviet Union and the war with Poland was not part of any grand design on the part of Germany, but rather it was a response to the diplomatic situation that arose after Chamberlain gave the Poles that war guarantee.
If Chamblerlain had not given the Poles the war guarantee, they would have ceded Danzig to Germany, and the Polish-German Non-Aggression Pact would have kept Poland (like Sweden) out of the war between the Germans and the Soviets.
Hitler would have gone to war with Stalin. There would not have been a war in Poland, or a war with Britain and France, or a war between Japan and the United States, or a war that raged everywhere from the Balkans to Italy to North Africa to Northern Europe and the Netherlands.
Instead of there being a world war that destroyed Europe, there would have been a Nazi-Soviet War, which would have crippled Nazism and Communism.
Think about it: there wouldn’t have been a Vietnam, there wouldn’t have been a Communist China, there wouldn’t have been a Cuban Revolution, there wouldn’t been a triumph of liberalism in Europe, etc.
(1) We have troops all over the world to react threats quickly.
(2) Ann Coulter opposes gay marriage.
“NEW YORK, September 28, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) Conservative commentator Ann Coulter stayed true to her reputation for courting controversy during an address to homosexual conservatives in New York on Saturday, telling them that they did not need special rights and that marriage was the union of a man and a woman.”
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2010/sep/10092807
3) Ayn Rand was distancing herself from the so-called “Old Right”.
4) Atheists can be Conservatives, too. Again, see SE Cupp, who’s not exactly a liberal.
5) Conservatives believe in color-blindness, too. Barry Goldwater was a card carrying member of the NAACP. If you haven’t noticed, Herman Cain is leading in the polls. In 2010, Consrvatives surged to the polls and elected:
Susana Martinez
Tim Scott
Marco Rubio
Ileana Ros Lethinen (I’d be hard pressd to call her a Conervative, but Miami is a blue hell hole. That’s the best the Republican party wa going to do there.)
Allen West
Nikki Haley
“What do you call Puerto Rico? What about Guam? Of course America has an empire. The dollar is the worlds reserve currency because America is an empire.”
Should we give back Florida ? Louisiana ? Texas ? Alaska ? Hawaii ?
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