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Dale and Shannon Hickman of the Followers of Christ church sentenced to six years in prison (OR)
The Oregonian ^
| October 31, 2011
| Nicole Dungca
Posted on 10/31/2011 3:52:02 PM PDT by jazusamo
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posted on
10/31/2011 3:52:04 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
To: Salvation
Ping for your consideration.
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posted on
10/31/2011 3:54:27 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
“Followers of Christ”?? What is that? Is it anything like the “Children of God” sex and pedo cult??
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posted on
10/31/2011 3:58:38 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: GeronL
Apparently not but they are a little off. P>
The members of the church frequently greet each other with kisses on the lips;[2] members of the church are often pejoratively referred to as "kissers" by others in Oregon CityThat doesn't bode well.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:01:34 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: jazusamo
I know nothing of this organization, but it amazes me the vitriol from the Oregonian readers against this couple, calling them murders, but not realizing that you can abort a baby two months before it is born.
I'm not saying what they did was right; I'm just asking for some consistency.
To: GeronL
It’s a church (I consider it a cult) that reject medicine and any treatment by a doctor, they believe their faith in God will heal.
If they as adults want to make that choice it’s their business but their children are a different story, IMO.
Oregon finally changed the religious exemption in the law for minor children because of the many children that would not have died with simple medical procedures.
The members of the Followers of Christ church have resisted change but this judge finally got tough and imposed a sentence that’s not a slap on the wrist.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:10:11 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
“The Hickmans were sentenced to 75 months in prison...”
It should have been 75 years in prison.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:11:33 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
To: kosciusko51
Children have been dying for years needlessly, check my post #6.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:12:25 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Thanks, but I'm not sure how it applies in this particular case. A two-month preemie takes a lot of extraordinary service to keep it alive (I've been there, except with a three-month preemie). This is different than a parent that doesn't allow a child to get a tetanus shot for a cut from a rusty nail.
Also, if this couple would have decided to abort the baby the day before, there would be no charges. That is the consistency I am looking at. If this judge passes this harsh of a sentence on this family, why does he do the same for every third trimester abortion in the state?
I pray that right-to-life groups use this as a way to get more restrictions on abortions in Oregon.
To: kosciusko51
I understand perfectly what you’re saying but though I consider abortion murder this is not an abortion issue.
This case was about a preemie born two months early. The other three court cases mentioned in the article prosecuted in the last three years were older children.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:25:11 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
To: kosciusko51
It seems to me that underlying the judge’s decision is a presumption that modern medicine carries a guarantee of saving any life regardless of the condition. That is both ignorant and arrogant.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:28:38 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
To: jazusamo
I understand perfectly what youre saying but though I consider abortion murder this is not an abortion issue.
This case was about a preemie born two months early. po-TA-to, po-tat-o. The law is inconsistent in the protection of a child at that stage of development. Also, in many cases, even with EXTRAORDINARY medical attention, a two-month preemie has a significant chance of dying. The other cases appear to have merit; this one seems sketchy at best.
To: kosciusko51
I live near this case, and I seriously wondered why they didn’t use the “abortion didn’t go as planned” defense.
Also wondering why this merits more time than a drunk driver killing someone.
To: jazusamo
Seems like the judge is deeming it neglect and rightly so in my opinion.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:37:08 PM PDT
by
Netizen
(Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
To: Netizen
I agree. The baby lived nine hours and the parents refused to seek medical attention. A pediatrician testified on the stand that the babies chance of survival with hospital treatment was good. That's negligence, IMO.
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posted on
10/31/2011 4:44:05 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
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posted on
10/31/2011 5:18:30 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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posted on
10/31/2011 5:32:54 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
A jury in September unanimously found Dale and Shannon Hickman, of the Followers of Christ church, guilty in the death of their son, David Hickman, who lived for less than nine hours. He was born approximately two months premature and weighed less than four pounds. I wonder if our legal overlords realize what a clown show they are?
Of course, they're the scary crazed clowns, with pinwheels for eyes, and blue-clad thugs with automatic weapons to back up their insane rulings...
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posted on
10/31/2011 5:40:37 PM PDT
by
kiryandil
(turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
To: jazusamo
The members of the Followers of Christ church have resisted change but this judge finally got tough and imposed a sentence thats not a slap on the wrist. So, did judgie-clown also get tough, and jail a bunch of aborting baby-killers at the same time?
If not, he can shove his sanctimonious hypocrisy where the sun don't shine.
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posted on
10/31/2011 5:44:01 PM PDT
by
kiryandil
(turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
To: trumandogz
Lighten up, Francis.
You out there jailing aborting baby-killers? Didn't think so. Then I don't want to hear it.
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posted on
10/31/2011 5:45:31 PM PDT
by
kiryandil
(turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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