And on 11-28-06, Pope Benedict XVI addressed ambassadors and religious leaders at the Vatican Embassy in Ankara, Turkey. He chose to have as the background setting for his speech an enormous Muslim Crescent as it appears on the Turkey flag.
Posted on 10/31/2011 3:31:48 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
How would you feel if your pastor stood in the pulpit this past Sunday opened what you believed to be his Bible and then started to read passages completely unfamiliar to you. Then in the midst of the reading you hear him say Allah instead of God and you realize he is reading not from his Bible, but from the Quran.
How would you feel and what would you do?
If this didn’t happen to you yesterday, count yourself fortunate because it did happen to a number people sitting in Christian churches across America.
Social activists involved with Faith Shared, a program of Interfaith Alliance and Human Rights First were trying to promote tolerance and respect of Islam and counter opposition to the Muslim faith. So starting with the National Cathedral in Washington DC, at least fifty other churches in 32 states joined in the effort to host readings from the Quran.
The effort is meant to counter what they refer to as ‘anti-Muslim bigotry and negative stereotypes’ that have been growing in the
US. By getting prominent national and local churches to read from the Quran and teach their congregations about Islam, the Alliance believes it will help make Christians more knowledgeable and tolerant of Islam.
Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, president of Interfaith Alliance said:
“The anti-Muslim rhetoric that has pervaded our national conversation recently has shocked and saddened me. Appreciation for pluralism and respect for religious freedom and other human rights are at the core of our democracy. We believe that demonstrating our commitment to those core American values will help counteract the intensified level of negative stereotypes and anti-Muslim bigotry in our recent public discourse.”
Tad Stahnke of Human Rights First said:
“With Faith Shared, congregations will send a clear message to the world that Americans respect religious differences and reject bigotry and the demonization of Islam or any other religion. This message about the fundamental importance of religious freedom around the world is especially timely as President Obama prepares to reaffirm the United States’ support for democracy in the Middle East starting with a speech later this week.”
Dean Sam Lloyd of the National Cathedral said:
“Few things are more important for the future of our world than to respect, to honor, and to commit ourselves to the well-being of every person—to embrace a sense of humility before the vast mystery of God. As Americans and as people of faith, we must use our great traditions to come together for mutual enrichment and understanding.”
Islam has no tolerance for other religions and if you think it does and want to argue the point, look at the Islamic nations in the Middle East such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq. They not only preach intolerance for other religions, especially Judaism and Christianity, but they preach the eradication of them. These Muslim nations have laws against the religious practices of other religions. In Egypt, the state police have been harassing Christians and arresting them and beating them.
Yep, that’s tolerance, isn’t it?
Jesus never taught tolerance for other religions, but he also didn’t teach his followers to use violence against them. Instead, Jesus taught his followers to share their faith with those who believe in other religions and to pray for them.
I don’t know about you, but if my pastor had read from the Quran this past Sunday, I would have gotten up in the middle of the service and left. I would also have serious doubts about returning to worship the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ at a church that reads from the Quran and teaches respect for a false religion.
I would make an appointment to meet with the pastor ask him to justify his actions and then I would read 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 to him, which says:
“Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,
‘”I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”’
I would also ask my pastor if he believed Jesus in John 14:6 when He said:
“Jesus said to him, ”I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
And Matthew 7:15-16 when Jesus said:
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits.”
And Matthew 24:10-12 when Jesus said speaking of the last days:
“And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.”
In view of these passages of Scripture, I would ask my pastor to explain why he would dare use the pulpit on the Lord’s Day to teach or promote the religion of a false prophet. My further attendance at his church would depend upon his answers to these questions.
I advise any of you who may have sat in one of these churches to follow the same course of action with your pastor and then make your own judgment on whether or not you want to consider attending that church in the future.
If I were a Christian, that would be my choice.
Didn't Pope John Paul kiss the koran?
Muslims are having their so called “arab-spring” enjoying “freedom” from restraint as never before....and what is the result for Christians?...They are killing Christians , beatings, destruction of churches and the like, have increased abundantly. Where once they were constrained...this is what freedom brings to the muslim nations....death to Christians.
I say this because as they infilitrate our government and churches, masqurade as bearers of light, with an agenda so hidden even the elite choose not to see it, we forget that those coming here from the ME are heavily indoctrinated from childhood throughout adulthood until they come here....
You cannot turn around that type of indoctrination without Christ.. and that with longtime Christian teaching.. and this likely with psycological help as well....for that indoctrination will surface given the right circumstances which will set off or “trigger” the brainwashing they have had....
these are not mentally stable people for the most part, no matter how they might masqurade themselves...and because they have spent ‘a lifetime avoiding abuse’ in their homelands they are experts at lying and deceit to avoid any confrontation or conflict with people in order to sustain their life here...until something happens where they cannot constrain themselves.
An example....Fort Hood...another the radio station husband who decaptivated his wife....and it didn’t take much to set those alarms for the actions to follow....and both of these were considered Good citizens of this country.
What these churches are doing is not just wrong..it’s very dangerous. And until American people understand that it’s not just the culture differences but a very real and diabolical mental programming deep within the very minds and hearts of these people, then we subject our families and children to danger.
sure he was...My dictionary defines a heretic as a dissenter from established religious dogma, a baptized member of the Roman Catholic church who disavows a revealed truth, one who dissents from an accepted belief or doctrine, a nonconformist.....pretty much describes old Martin doesn't it???.....what issue was he correct on that the infallible church was wrong on???
Many of the main line churches have denied the essential Christian doctrines as we know them to be. The centrality of Christ is often simple lip service...He is no longer “exclusive”....may doubt the authority of scripture and seek man to substantiate what they believe rather than knowing why they believe what they do...and further they deny the inspiration of Scripture.
All manner of various eastern practices..yoga, tm and the like have been accepted into the churches as well... So as one author wrote...” I’m not shocked that pagans would unite with pagans.”
Even so...when it comes to muslims years and years of brainwashing it is no small a matter to bring them to Christ...and even harder still for them to let go of Islam even after they have a conversion....many will incorporate the two.
Interesting comment...
sure it is....the incidents involving protestant clergy in this regard, far surpass those of Catholic clergy....before you throw stones, make cartain that your own windows aren't endangered
you are, of course, aware that in the incidents involving clergy and youngsters, protestant clergy FAR surpass Catholic clergy. No excuses here for either, but be very careful of making accusations when your own brethren are the major offenders.
You nailed it w/having to go underground.
It’s sobering...we KNEW it was coming, but there’s something about (soon) living it....
And on 11-28-06, Pope Benedict XVI addressed ambassadors and religious leaders at the Vatican Embassy in Ankara, Turkey. He chose to have as the background setting for his speech an enormous Muslim Crescent as it appears on the Turkey flag.
No, I’m not aware of that. I am aware of the catholic hierarchy hiding and covering up for pedophiles and have done so for centuries.
No pedophile is my “brethren”. That’s a catholic thing.
You know, until I got on FR I never really cared one way or the other about Catholics. Since I’ve been on here I’ve been amazed at the sneering arrogance some of you exhibit. If you’re trying to convince the rest of us how awesome Catholicism is by taunting us and picking fights then let me tell you that you’re not making any headway with me.
I am reactionary about this because Catholics had been attacked pretty viciously on this site many years ago, but lately that has not been the case.
My earlier posts were very unchristian, my apologies.
I never try to pick fights with those who are unarmed...I do, however, defend the teachings of Christ's church against those who, for the last 500 years or so, spew their futile attempts to undermine the teachings of the church. Christ PROMISED His church that the gates of hell would not prevail against her and I guess He put a few of us here on earth to do His bidding. I am not, of course, educated enough in theology to give official defenses for the church, but handling on line people like us who differ in opinions and learning, is usually not that big a deal. Arrogance is not the right word to use.....when you are right, when you are a member of the true church, when the bible and history are on your side, when the entire protestant movement sprang up around the 1500's, it is not arrogant to point out to our separated brethren that we are still here and welcome them back. You can go on believing that all 20,000 or so protestant denominations are right.....but they're not. One does not taunt another to get that person to agree with you. That having been said, I think that it is absolutely proper for Americans to flaunt the positives about the United States....not demeaning anyone else, just pointing out that we are the best.......Catholics do that too.
I don't know about that, but apology accepted here.
I love having a smart phone,..but feel soooooo dumb sometimes.
I had a really cool, fun reply to you...and, of course, LOST the durn thing.
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I'm guilty of that and I'm sorry if I've offended. My family is mostly Catholic and Lutheran. I have a tendency to see things both sides but what I've notice about both and other denominations is that the liberal, marxists are infiltrating and trying take over.
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