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Greek PM calls referendum on EU debt deal
Daily Telegraph ^ | 31 Oct 2011 | By AFP

Posted on 10/31/2011 2:05:55 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy

"The plan of initiatives calls for a confidence vote," Papandreou told his Socialist party lawmakers in parliament, moments after he had also announced a referendum would also be held on the EU deal.

"The command of the Greek people will bind us," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debtcrisis; eu; euro; eurocrisis; eurodebt; greece; greekcrisis
Referendum on the Greek bailout. Oh, dear. The euro crisis will intensify immediately. Today the yield on Italy's 10 year bonds increased by some 70 points. Tomorrow?
1 posted on 10/31/2011 2:05:59 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy
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To: ScaniaBoy

PM is a 3rd generation commie.


2 posted on 10/31/2011 2:09:43 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: ScaniaBoy

Good for the Greeks, that they actually will get to decide. To stay or not to stay in the euro will be the final question.

However, we have not heard any comments from Berlin, Paris, or Brussels. One wonders...


3 posted on 10/31/2011 2:10:00 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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If it is a referendum, it is no deal for the Greeks. The Socialists, who control the government, have been taking a beating on the deal politically. Now they want to shift the responsibility to the electorate. Classic.


4 posted on 10/31/2011 2:10:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ScaniaBoy

odds on whether anyone in Brussels, or even in Athens, gives a rat’s ass about what “the people” think?


5 posted on 10/31/2011 2:12:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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All three referendums, in three different countries, on EU have failed.

Well, after subtle threats by the Commission, Ireland took another vote and extortionately voted yes.

All EU countries' electorates have voted themselves the sovereign treasuries until it caused the EU in the first place. The EU Commission can put a stop to the populist, socialist confiscations and bring some sanity to tyrannies of collectivist majorities.

yitbos

6 posted on 10/31/2011 2:17:35 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Yeah, right. The referendum on bailouts should be held in Germany, France, The Netherlands etc., NOT Greece!

But perhaps in the EU madhouse the beggars get to call the shots.


7 posted on 10/31/2011 2:22:08 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Whether you realize it or not, this is the biggest story of the day and will have a major impact tomorrow. The Greeks will vote to default period and then the chaos will begin in the financial markets. The only reason the Socialists announced the referendum is to buy time and avoid calling early elections. The EU deal is already starting to unravel.


8 posted on 10/31/2011 2:22:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ScaniaBoy

The Eurolanders won’t give up on their dream of a United europe any time soon.


9 posted on 10/31/2011 2:45:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The euroleaders don’t care what the people think, never have. No matter who they elect they are the same people.


10 posted on 10/31/2011 2:47:05 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: kabar

:)

Yes, I do realize it is a big story, but I was too busy (and tired) to hang it on breaking news etc. If people are interested they’ll find it.

Already today most of the “gains” seen in the markets after the big “deal” on Thursday disappeared, and that was before Papandreou’s bomb. We can only guess what is going to happen tomorrow.

Us sceptics warned the europhiles (or federasts as I usually call them) that a common currency would eventually kill the project. It looks like we were right, but unfortunately the demise of the euro will hurt both guilty and innocents.


11 posted on 10/31/2011 4:11:28 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: bruinbirdman
All EU countries' electorates have voted themselves the sovereign treasuries until it caused the EU in the first place. The EU Commission can put a stop to the populist, socialist confiscations and bring some sanity to tyrannies of collectivist majorities.

No they cannot. First of all they do not want to unless it brings more power to Brussels. Secondly, in the end they will have to put troops on the ground to force the countries to obey. The EU does not yet have troops.

PS: The EU is "crony capitalism" squared. Definitely not a free market. Unfortunately your description of our national economies was not too far from the mark either. Bother!

12 posted on 10/31/2011 4:17:43 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Moltke

You are quite right. The debtors are the ones who hold the cards.

Germany, France, the EU bureaucracy, the banks, all for different reasons do not want Greece, Ireland, or Portugal to leave the Eurozone and/or the EU. And so those countries have something to bargain with - their membership.

Other creditor nations like Finland, the Netherlands, Slovakia are in a different position. They probably won’t mind at all if Greece left the EU. They are in a much better negotiating position than Germany and France, but because they are too small, except on a few occsassions they don’t dare to push their agendas.


13 posted on 10/31/2011 4:26:09 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: GeronL
The Eurolanders won’t give up on their dream of a United europe any time soon.

No they don't, but when an irresistible force meets an immovable object, something has to give.

14 posted on 10/31/2011 4:28:48 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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We are not that far apart.

How is the bankrupt welfare state weaned? In the past, it has always been through inflation (currency devaluation one way or another ), a silent tax even on the poor.

The EUrozone needs fiscal and political consolidation either to force inflation or force austerity.

Forced austerity has to be a second choice because of immediate reaction?

Fiscal and political integration has always been the goal of EU?.

yitbos

15 posted on 10/31/2011 5:32:00 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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