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Skeptic finds he now agrees global warming is real (AP/Muller propoganda alert!)
ap ^ | 10/30/2011 | seth borenstein

Posted on 10/30/2011 8:12:23 AM PDT by milwguy

A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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To: fireman15

I agree.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 10:56:01 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: milwguy

I had an argument with a UT nutjob 12 years ago about the rapid rise of temperatures. Well.......................


22 posted on 10/30/2011 10:58:05 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: milwguy

Scientist (Muller) Who Said Climate Sceptics Had Been Proved Wrong Accused Of Hiding Truth By Colleague:

http://thegwpf.org/index.php?option=com_acymailing&ctrl=url&urlid=1804&mailid=403&subid=1960


23 posted on 10/30/2011 2:23:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: Norseman

And since they heavily bias all their recent temperature records upwards, the flat lining of temperatures the past 10 years, means that in reality recent temperatures have been falling. They fell fairly strongly the past 5 years. This will become very evident during the northern hemispheres winter. Already shattered numerous all time October snow records. And that simply cannot happen if the planet was recently warming or even recently flat lining.


24 posted on 10/30/2011 4:21:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: milwguy

What happened to Professor Richard Muller? He used to be a sceptic and why he suddenly willing to lie about global warming. I’ve seen one of his youtube clips arguing on the skeptic side against climategate supporters


25 posted on 10/30/2011 5:01:53 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2011/10/23/wapo-punked-berkeley-warmist-posing-skeptic

Apparently Muller have been a global warming support for 30 years and his skepticism have been false


26 posted on 10/30/2011 5:18:35 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: milwguy
A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

I am a long time admirer of Dr, Muller, and am unphazed by this filtered version of what he is going to say.

I will calmly wait to read his own words myself. I know that he knows from reading his previous books and lectures, that he is completely aware of the difference between science speculation and science fact.

Of coirse there has been global warming. That was never the issue and the cause of the endless resulting foodfight.

If Dr. Muller states flatly that global warming is anthropogenic (an impossibility for him) then we can talk further.

27 posted on 10/30/2011 8:44:49 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: 4rcane

From what I read and listened to he has never changed his tune. He just never liked the way some scientist hides data and still doesn’t.


28 posted on 10/31/2011 6:59:34 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: milwguy

Anyone have a list of AGW ex-supporters? A co-worker is touting the “a skeptic became convinced!” line.


29 posted on 11/01/2011 1:27:15 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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