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To: Eleutheria5
I think it's pretty obvious a large part of Israel's defense is dependent on the United States. If the U.S. collapses and all Israeli aid is cut off it would have a severe impact on Israel, and could lead them to the same fate. Israel has also started showing weakness in the way they conduct war just like we have. I agree with your opinion, but if you actually fight a war against an aggressor your nation will have the U.S. use it's influence to pressure the Israeli government into halting it's offensive before achieving what's needed. We aren't going to fight wars correctly anymore, and we are going to use our aid to allies to do what we can to stop them from winning wars.

I support Israel, and we are good allies who benefit from that friendship, but it's obvious who's more dependent on the others survival as a nation. Mexico's invasion of the U.S. isn't taken serious by way too many people, and if you're suggesting it has no impact on Israel you're kidding yourself. If we don't get our country moving in the right direction it's not only our nation at risk, but our allies as well.

26 posted on 10/30/2011 6:08:49 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

I meant what I say. Do whatever you have to do in Mexico. We should do whatever we have to do in Ghaza, before the war spreads. Frankly, the three billion in aid we get from the US is too costly to both of us. I wish it would stop. It’s not substantial enough to make a real difference either way. Where being best buds with the US really counts for something is in clout. You have it, diplomatic, strategic, military. We don’t. We’re everyone’s whipping boy at the UN. We have no carrier groups, ICBMs, or deep manufacturing infrastructure. The only way we’ve kept our enemies from slaughtering us wholesale is by winning wars. This war has to be won, too, or it won’t matter a bit whether or not the US is our ally. You can’t win it for us. You can’t even fight it with us. You can have a huge effect on the aftermath of a victory, though, for good or bad.

The bottom line is, we need regional allies who are facing the same threat, such as India, South Sudan, the Copts, Lebanese and Arab Christians, Armenians, Greeks. The US is powerful, but also doesn’t have its head screwed on straight. We can’t trust our future to exclusive reliance on the US, although your friendship is a very good thing.


29 posted on 10/30/2011 8:56:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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