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1 posted on 10/28/2011 1:17:48 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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2 posted on 10/28/2011 1:18:34 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: smoothsailing

Perry wins this comparison in my book.

Once Bachman and then Cain drop out, conservatives will come back around, either to Perry or to Gingrich.


4 posted on 10/28/2011 1:34:28 PM PDT by mkboyce
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To: smoothsailing

lol!

Isn’t 909 a former beer product? Oh wait that was 905...nevermind.


5 posted on 10/28/2011 1:39:39 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hello, Hello...Remember me... I'm everything YOU can't control...)
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To: smoothsailing

If he comes out with a close the border plan I am all in.


6 posted on 10/28/2011 1:39:47 PM PDT by oust the louse (Obama approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the United States.)
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To: smoothsailing

A national sales tax would require each retail outlet to account for the tax. A flat tax would be accounted with the employer which is already being done though witholding tax. There is no impact on the retail market and no impact on the employer.


9 posted on 10/28/2011 1:45:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: smoothsailing

Intrade pegs Perry’s chances at 10.9%, who’s in?


13 posted on 10/28/2011 1:53:24 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: smoothsailing

Great article.

I didn’t know that the 9-?-9 plan called for taxing States and Local governments.

I hate to think about the bureaucracy involved in building the bureaucracy for collecting a National sales tax.


15 posted on 10/28/2011 2:00:43 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: smoothsailing
Ken Blackwell couldn't sell Ohio on McCain - folks left in droves for Obama after GWB!

IMHO Perry's problem is Perry.

I don't see conservatives in the Midwest being do-see do ed over to Perry because

1. His in-state-tuition for Illegals. Midwesterners want them sent back to Mexico and they want tough anti-immigration laws enforced, not more laws created to accommodate them.

2. His performance in the debates and his communication skills.

3. A wife that is coming across as being domineering and part of the “ticket”.

4. Dropping out of the debates because he's not a “debater”. What a crock! If he can't discuss issues with adversaries (MSM) or his competition he should not be running for POTUS.

JMHO

17 posted on 10/28/2011 2:04:09 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: smoothsailing
Sorry, Ken and Ken, your analysis of Perry's plan is nothing but cheerleading for a flat tax, which, yes, we all agree is a great thing.

But Perry's plan is NOT a flat tax.

Did you ever notice that NOT ONCE did you address the fact --- a pretty big fact, I'd say -- that Perry's plan is a hybrid plan? That it adds a mini-me flat tax code ON TOP OF the Fedzilla code we have in place now? And that it leaves that Fedzilla code in place indefinitely, all the better to entrench crony capitalism and corruption while even fewer taxpayers are looking?

This is something like the fourth or fifth "analysis" of Perry's plan that I've seen that COMPLETELY IGNORES the plan and simply focuses on how great a flat tax, or the flat tax portion of Perry's plan, would be.

That is unacceptable as "analysis," gentlemen.

If you had done a true analysis, Ken and Ken, you would have had to address at least some of these arguments in this thread.

And if you really wanted to be prepared, you could read my little archive of rants on why having a two-tier system under the Perry plan is dangerous to our freedom (at #18).

19 posted on 10/28/2011 2:11:30 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Perry’s Game-Changing Plan for Jobs and Growth

About the author:

 

Ken Blackwell, one of America’s leading conservative voices, is the author of Rebuilding America and is currently the Senior Fellow for Family Empowerment at the Family Research Council. He has served as Ohio’s treasurer, secretary of state, mayor of Cincinnati, undersecretary at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Commission. Co-chair of the Republican National Committee’s Redistricting Commission, he is on the board of directors of the National Rifle Association, the Club for Growth, National Taxpayers Union. In 2004, he was awarded the prestigious John M. Ashbrook award by the American Conservative Union and the AshbrookCenter for Public Affairs for his steadfast conservative leadership. Blackwell is a contributing editor for Townhall.com, and his columns appear in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, New York Post, American Spectator, American Thinker, and on NationalReview.com and FoxNews.com. He and his wife of more than forty years, Rosa, live in Cincinnati, Ohio.

21 posted on 10/28/2011 2:12:30 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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And Cain’s selling point of “simplicity” is unraveling, as he’s now revealing that certain income groups and locales would be subject to different taxes.

Oh, good grief.

If this is Ken Blackwell's definition of "complicated," he's spent too much time watching Oprah.

22 posted on 10/28/2011 2:13:51 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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26 posted on 10/28/2011 2:23:44 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: smoothsailing; chesty_puller
smoothsailing,

If I could copy and paste that entire article again right here, I would do that! Every single sentence in that article was very important, and none of those details mentioned should be overlooked.

However, since it is probably best not to just copy and paste the entire thing again, I will at least share one of my favorite parts. It is one of the parts that gets me really excited, and only one of them, but in the name of time and space...... Well, you know! LOL

From the article:

Perry also extends this 20% rate to corporate taxes. This will make America significantly more competitive in the global economy. Temporary incentives will also draw perhaps a trillion dollars from abroad back home.

I had just mentioned in another thread, and I'll mentioned it here too, that Perry's Cut, Balance and Grow package is an entire comprehensive economic reform platform, and a big part of that reform is cutting our federal government's strongholds on economic growth while making our country competitive and our country's entire financial picture strong, perhaps stronger than ever before when you add the SEPARATE Energy Production / Energy Independence plan alongside his Cut, Balance and Grow economic reform package.

This candidate is going for growth and vitality, and he's going for something so big I don't think we are even getting the "just" of it all yet.

And the coolest thing of all? He's doing it all with a combination of Tea-Party-fiscally-conservative measures right alongside a courageous belief in what America is able to do when you set her people free.

I am proud to be a supporter of Governor Perry because I want our country to have what it is capable of with his vision, with his principles, and with his leadership.

37 posted on 10/28/2011 3:16:29 PM PDT by casinva
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To: smoothsailing

yeah..20% tax is fair? Give me a break..we should actually have zero tax on income just as the founders had it!


54 posted on 10/28/2011 9:21:56 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: smoothsailing

yeah..20% tax is fair? Give me a break..we should actually have zero tax on income just as the founders had it!


55 posted on 10/28/2011 9:22:04 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: smoothsailing

Bump!!!


57 posted on 10/29/2011 12:35:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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