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To: justlurking

“Clinton himself would be proud of your dissembling”

Huh? I’m not talkingn about the meaning of “is.” I’m not even using very fine distinctions. I’d say I was being a whole lot simpler and more apparent (if laconic) than the guy who brought up the arcane legal textbook.

“Why can’t you admit you made a mistake?”

For the best of reasons: because I didn’t.

“You said that ‘natural born citizen’ meant ‘citizen at birth’”

Uh-huh.

“It doesn’t, because the former is a subset of the latter.”

If that were true, there would be a category of citizen known as “native born but not natural born.” Since there isn’t, and never has been in the history of humankind, perhaps that’s a clue that something’s off.

“A person can be a ‘citizen at birth’, but still not a ‘natural born citizen’”

Wrong.


65 posted on 10/27/2011 10:56:51 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
If that were true, there would be a category of citizen known as “native born but not natural born.” Since there isn’t, and never has been in the history of humankind, perhaps that’s a clue that something’s off.

According to the Vattel's Law of Nations, that category does exist. And the US Supreme Court affirmed it in Minor v. Happersett.

Wrong.

I see. Simply because you said so, with no evidence other than "it can't possibly be true".

70 posted on 10/27/2011 11:04:23 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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