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To: mek1959

Let me take a bit of a contrarian view. He absolutely makes valid points—and I do believe as I’ve studied the Constitution over the past couple years (you don’t know how important it is until it is threatened, right?!), I have certainly come to the conclusion that the Republican party has SCREWED UP some things on the Constitutional front.

*But* I do not believe his answer—to vote out everyone who screws up—is a practical or smart one. NO one is perfect.

I think you can vote consistently conservative and move the ball CLOSER to a fully Constitutional Republic envisioned by our Founders. Will it be exactly what our Founders envisioned? No.

I am not defending liberalism, and I’m not saying we always have to split the baby in half. Some ideas that are clearly UNconstitutional can be dealt with quickly, in my opinion: getting rid of the Department of Education...the EPA...etc. And by “quickly”, I mean in relative terms.

Other problems are going to take time.

Folks, unless we’re going to literally revolt with weaponry, and I don’t think that is in the cards, we need to work within the system and revolutionize the culture from the ground up. That will include support imperfect people.

Hell, just like our CIA, before the era of political correctness, made “friends” with some very bad people...in order to keep our national security interests in tact. We aren’t always going to have the greatest of allies even in our own party, but we have a greater interest in mind: the survival of our nation.

We DEFINITELY need to beware of crony capitalism—which is as prone to invade the Republican party as well as the Democrat party. But we shouldn’t bash business just for the sake of bashing business...this is the mode of liberals.

When one looks at Supreme Court decisions from as early as the 1803, Marbury v. Madison, you’ll find people wondering about the Constitutionality of particular actions...even as to whether the Supreme Court REALLY gets to be the “final word”.

When SCOTUS pissed off the states in “Chisholm v. Georgia” in the early 1790s, they went off and passed the 11th amendment.

My point is: there have been arguments over this kind of stuff from the beginning...we lost our way BIG TIME in the 1930s, and need to bring the pendulum back.

I hope this makes sense. I’m not dismissing his points, they’re good ones, but I think he may go a bit too far.


59 posted on 10/28/2011 11:24:07 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Very well thought out response and I agree with you 100%. Some folks like to ‘luxuriate in the purity of their own irrelevance” - without understanding that we are imperfect people in an imperfect world dealing with an imperfect union with imperfect choices before us.

That’s just the way it is, and given that, I’ll take anything that moves the ball closer to the goal - and then we’ll keep fighting from that point.


60 posted on 10/29/2011 10:37:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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