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To: little jeremiah
"The euro collapsing will without doubt have huge effects here; of course I have little to no idea what exactly,..."

Well, first, they might stuff our Treasury again, and run our dollar even more unnaturally high. Yes, more nonsense fluctuations in the markets. Our USA is in debt up to its ears (about 100% debt-to-GDP).

If the dollar were allowed to go lower with our debt and trade deficit increases, we would see manufacturing moving this way again. But with both political parties so much into socialism (one more for federal government employees, the other more for local socialists), I don't see much hope of that. Most investors want to continue the artificially high dollar, even though that's antithetical to their yells of "free market!" They don't want their dollar-favoring investments to decrease today regardless of the costs tomorrow.

Investors should be leaning more toward net energy exporters for the long run, but they're intent on riding the debt wave all the way up and promoting stealth socialist politicians to get every last penny of debt. Thus, the crazy stories about east Asia collapsing and our USA rising now (under these circumstances).

Save what you can. Stock up. Become even more self-sufficient. That's all that I can offer.


113 posted on 10/26/2011 9:59:49 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop

Thanks - I posted this hoping to read and learn.

My tagline says what I think will happen, generally speaking...

I even save all bottles and jars and wash carefully. Glass is amazing stuff. And all clean cotton rags, I use for bandages, patches and who knows what all. I scrounge for all kinds of sewing supplies, threads, mending supplies - and have enough fabric to make clothes for lots of people - sheets and blankets for others - dozens of toothbrushes - enough soap to clean lots of people and clothes for a decade at least....

Two things missing are a hand pump and a manual way to wash clothes, but hub is a mechanical genius type. Also the garden is barely there.


116 posted on 10/26/2011 10:27:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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