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Reading the Real Qur'an (Debating a Muslim activist on the future of Libya)
American Thinker ^ | 10/25/2011 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 10/25/2011 6:52:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Last Friday I was on the Sean Hannity Show, debating Muslim activist Michael Ghouse on the future of Libya.

Debating Michael Ghouse is like shooting kuffar in a barrel. But Friday night, Ghouse presented me with an enormous Qur'an, courtesy of the Muslim Brotherhood-tied Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR): The Message of the Qur'an, Translated and Explained by Muhammad Asad. Giving out these giant door-stoppers is further proof of Hamas-linked CAIR's limitless resources.

Inside, Ghouse had written this inscription: "Quran has 25 translations. 2 are bad -- One by Christian Kings other by Muslims -- both to generate hate for the other. Quran is a book of Justice." On the show, Ghouse gave Hannity a copy of the same edition, repeating his claim about the two "wrong translations" and saying, "This is the right translation."

So this must be the book of peace from the religion of peace. Because Ghouse is all about peace. At his website, he says: "Welcome to my world, the world of Pluralism. If we can learn to accept the otherness of other and respect the God given uniqueness of each one of the seven billion of us, then conflicts fade and solutions emerge."

The only problem that Ghouse fails to address is there is no respect or acceptance of "the other" in Islam. "The others" are despised, denigrated, and dawah-ed to death. Under the sharia, nonbelievers are forced live under dhimmitude, a subjugated class status denied basic human rights.

According to Ghouse, it would seem that the things in the "bad" translations that are designed to "generate hate" must not be in this Qur'an. The one he gifted to Hannity and me promotes "the world of Pluralism." So I started reading. The first thing I noticed was that this translation uses "God" for Allah throughout,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; koran; libya; moslems; quran; taqiyah

1 posted on 10/25/2011 6:52:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

>>No longer do I struggle with keeping that heavy basement door open. Problem solved.<<

Necessity is the mother of invention. Smart lady.


2 posted on 10/25/2011 7:05:32 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey
I heard on the radio that the later verses override the former. (Abrogation).

Can anyone speak to that?

3 posted on 10/25/2011 7:24:17 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
From http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101.html:
The principle of abrogation... directs that verses revealed later in Muhammad's career "abrogate" -- i.e., cancel and replace -- earlier ones whose instructions they may contradict. Thus, passages revealed later in Muhammad's career, in Medina, overrule passages revealed earlier, in Mecca.
4 posted on 10/25/2011 8:23:16 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: SeekAndFind

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5 posted on 10/25/2011 8:24:20 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: sr4402
It's not just the later "scripture" but the extensive commentary that overrides the older in Islam "orthodoxy." And these more recent "inspired" works are (though not exclusively) a source of much that we would call "radical" in Radical Islam.

You've hit on something very important. When citing verses that mirror Mein Kamp those who would defend Islam in public forums will often counter with older verses, from the time before Mohammed found Jews and Christians inconvenient to his purposes, for example. Such people (who aren't completely stupid, that is) depend on a Western audience's general ignorance of this doctrine to confuse the issue.

It's not a religion, in any case. It's a garden variety mass movement as defined by Eric Hoffer.

6 posted on 10/25/2011 8:42:33 AM PDT by Prospero
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