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To: CharlesWayneCT
But I guess Cain is lying about it as well? When you don’t even accept your own Candidate’s explanations, and substitute your own hypothesis instead, you have to ask yourself why you’d rather make things up than believe your own candidate.

I posted Cain's exact words and used plain English to find the meaning.

If you have new quotes from Cain then add them to the discussion instead of making things up about me. Add to that Cain is not "my candidate" to the point that I don't criticize him. I've criticized Cain constantly on his national sales tax, for example.

So that's two things YOU made up.

Hypocritical, ironic and idiotic was your post, Charles.

56 posted on 10/24/2011 5:29:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
I thought everybody had read his clarifications.

Herman Cain Martha McCallum interview:

“Look, let’s go back,” Cain told the America Live program. “See, he was asking me two questions. My position on abortion has been the same — on pro-life — has been the same throughout this campaign. And that is, I am pro-life from conception and I don’t believe in abortion. When he then tried to pigeon-hole me on my granddaughter being there as a victim of rape, then what would I do?”

“The only point I was trying to make: A lot of families will be in that position and they are not going to be thinking, “Well, what does the government want me to do?” My position is no abortion. My position is no abortion. But all I was trying to point out was take the typical family in this country and you don’t know what they might do in the heat of the moment,” Cain explained.

See. Nothing about adoption. Nothing about him saying government shouldn't be involved in forcing women to adopt. Rather, it was about abortion, and he was saying that if a family has a daughter who was raped, they aren't going to be thinking about whether government has made it illegal or not, or what the President thinks.

He continued:

Cain replied, “No. No, I do not believe abortion should be legal in this country if that’s the question. I’m consistent with that.”

“Look, abortion should not be legal,” Cain said a moment later. “That is clear,” he said, adding that anyone who wanted to get an abortion would be breaking the law by doing so: “But if that family made a decision to break the law, that’s that family’s decision.

I'm not saying that this means Cain thinks it's OK for families to make that decision, or to ignore the law. I have no idea whether he's saying we can't enforce anti-abortion law, or just that he thought a question about what a family might do meant he should explain that people don't think about government when they make personal choices.

What I DO know is that Cain has conclusively put to bed the argument that HE THOUGHT HE WAS answering a question about adoption.

At this point, it makes no difference what the question looked like; it doesn't matter that his answer made NO SENSE if you thought he was answering about adoption (I explained that before his clarification days ago -- he later in that Morgan interview said his view was unique, and a view that government shouldn't force people to raise children isn't unique, as nobody has ever argued they should).

All that matters now is that the candidate has TOLD us what he was thinking, and what question he was answering -- and it wasn't about raising the kid or putting it up for adoption, it was about them getting an abortion without regard to what the government thought.

Since then, he has also said he wants abortion to be illegal, and he said he would support a constitutional amendment (unfortunately, he said he could SIGN the amendment, which showed an unfortunate lack of understanding of the job of President, but that's another issue).

59 posted on 10/24/2011 8:10:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FreeReign

Oh, and I apologize for assuming you were a Cain supporter.


60 posted on 10/24/2011 8:13:02 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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