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Gun Control and Gun Rights Stay Fighting Words (Barf alert!)
NY Times ^ | October 9, 2011 | MICHIKO KAKUTANI

Posted on 10/23/2011 6:36:05 PM PDT by neverdem

In “Gunfight,” his provocative, highly uneven new book about the fight over gun control, the constitutional law professor Adam Winkler writes that “gun rights and gun control are not only compatible; they have lived together since the birth of America.” He argues that “despite the controversy over the meaning of the Second Amendment, Americans have always had the right to keep and bear arms as a matter of state constitutional law. Today, nearly every state has such a provision in its own constitution, clearly protecting an individual right unattached to militia service...

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But Mr. Winkler implies that gun control advocacy is similarly defined by extremists — by people who would like to “eliminate all privately owned firearms — or, at least, make the United States more like England, where handguns are illegal and all other guns are rare.” And in doing so Mr. Winkler ignores or plays down the many reasonable, centrist arguments made, for instance, by Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group led by Michael R. Bloomberg of New York...

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So what changed the N.R.A.? Mr. Winkler’s account of how a dissident faction staged a coup at its annual meeting in 1977 and turned the group into an increasingly militant organization cannot help but remind the reader of the Tea Party’s efforts today to dictate the agenda of the Republican Party. In the case of N.R.A. hard-liners, they succeeded in pushing the group to the right, riding the wave of conservatism that helped bring Ronald Reagan to the White House. Since then the gun lobby has become even more militant, to the point at which many members not only reflexively oppose any attempt to regulate guns as leading to a “slippery slope to involuntary disarmament,” but also attack...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunfight; sliming4tyranny

1 posted on 10/23/2011 6:36:12 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

well regulated in the english of the constitution means well-drilled in today’s terms


2 posted on 10/23/2011 6:39:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: neverdem

NRA has only been a ONE issue program to begin with!


3 posted on 10/23/2011 6:45:35 PM PDT by LooneyTick (Of all the things in life I've lost, I miss my mind the most!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

well regulated in the english of the constitution means well-drilled in today’s terms

Well-regulated in today's English means well confiscated by some worthless Libtard.


4 posted on 10/23/2011 6:45:35 PM PDT by Zakeet (If it ain't broke, the Wee Wee will fix it until it is)
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To: neverdem

Seriously, does anyone out here in reality land give a smelly Obama about the NYT anymore?

They’ve beclowned themselves into the journalism equivalent of Yugo cars.


5 posted on 10/23/2011 6:46:53 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: neverdem
centrist arguments made, for instance, by Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group led by Michael R. Bloomberg of New York...

Hurling Barf!!!! 2 of the worst Gun Grabbers in the nation are "centerist". What total tripe....

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!

6 posted on 10/23/2011 6:50:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Zakeet
Man I used that silhouette cardboard target 20 years ago as a deterrent from a punk kid I said said wouldn't make to 16 and darn, he didn't!!! ( I Didn't do it, I swear) I had over 300 .40 caliber rounds in mine!!! I had a little sign with mine also in which I used his real name!!!
7 posted on 10/23/2011 6:53:34 PM PDT by LooneyTick (Of all the things in life I've lost, I miss my mind the most!)
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To: neverdem

No doubt, Freepers aren’t the target audience for this piece.


8 posted on 10/23/2011 6:58:53 PM PDT by umgud
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To: LooneyTick

Hey, I’d get some of those bullet hole decals and stick them all over my door, along with a “Come And Get It.”


9 posted on 10/23/2011 7:18:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Goliad never again
10 posted on 10/23/2011 7:51:54 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: neverdem
Why the hell did I click on this.....(sighs)

What the hell is centrist about bans? Nothing.

11 posted on 10/23/2011 8:51:44 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Perry and Cain I can support, but no Romney)
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To: Darren McCarty
What the hell is centrist about bans? Nothing.

Well, when one considers taking our arms is only a prelude to taking what they really want, I guess it is about the midpoint in their agendae.

12 posted on 10/23/2011 10:31:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: neverdem

They’re damn right abotu how we (pro-Second Amendment supporters) ARE becoming more militant, because we DO, and have understood for the longest time the eventuality of the “Gun Control” agenda...We have seent he results from countries that used to have a fairly healthy population that owned firearms of various types and capabilities with no real threat to that ownership than we are experiencing today...

Now we are basically alone in the world where the “Gun Control” agenda supporters are facilitating the loss of a basic human right to self defense, and actually in some places, those who do defend themselves with any means they have left to do so, are prosecuted more than the criminals committing illegal acts against others...

If the Gun Control crowd is concerned there is going to be a fight to win the crown jewel that is America, they are absolutely right, and they will never be that unhappy ever again...


13 posted on 10/24/2011 4:46:03 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: umgud
No doubt, Freepers aren’t the target audience for this piece.

How true.

If (gasp) Michiko Kakutani were ever to have an independent thought that was not merely another tired and foolish leftist trope, and furthermore, if she were to actually write such a thing down and somehow sneak it past her Commie apparatchik editors, she would suddenly find herself no longer invited to the right cocktail parties.

14 posted on 10/24/2011 7:12:05 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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