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Perry and Bachmann Take Veiled Swipes At Cain In Iowa
The Lebanon Daily Star ^ | October 24, 2011 01:04 AM | By John Whitesides

Posted on 10/23/2011 4:39:23 PM PDT by drewh

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To: drewh

It’s also a liberal canard to say that you support parental rights on the one hand, and then try to enact a requirement that parents of girls to be vaccinated with a specific new, highly expensive vaccine that just happens to be produced by one of your campaign contributors.


41 posted on 10/23/2011 7:02:57 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (REWARD!! Return escaped conservatives to the Grand Ol' Plantation. Call and ask for Mitt or Rick)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

If Cain can’t take it from other Republicans what the heck will he do if he should get the nomination?...expect the Dems and Obama to play nice?


42 posted on 10/23/2011 7:05:25 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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43 posted on 10/23/2011 7:06:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: montag813
It is SO painful to listen to Bachmann lately. She sounds so desperate and tired. I wish she would just get out already.

It is getting painful, and I like her, too! She's just not ready and needs to set her sights on the senate or something.

It's become a game in our house to take anything she says and somehow associate it to having 28 kids.

When she started talking about "Anchor Babies" in the last debate, I paused it and said, imitating her voice "Anderson, I raised 28 anchor babies..." My wife almost spit her drink across the room.

44 posted on 10/23/2011 7:06:43 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: drewh

Cain is not Pro-life and neither is Perry.


45 posted on 10/23/2011 7:08:59 PM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Caipirabob

Y’all must be really bored!


46 posted on 10/23/2011 7:14:18 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: FreeReign
I'm sure you criticized Cain for taking race card shots at Perry over the press's infamous rock story too, right?

Of course you did.

There are no clean hands here.

47 posted on 10/23/2011 7:14:27 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Gipper08

Herman Cain is personally and politically, 100% Pro-life

He is committed to:
1) Supporting and signing Pro-Life legislation
2) Appointing Pro-Life Supreme Court Justices
3) Defunding Planned Parenthood
4) He is for a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion (as well as gay marriage)
5) He has a HISTORY of active, not just verbal, support of pro-life issues

SOURCES BELOW
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10/22/11 - Herman Cain Exclusive: Tells Brody File He Will Support Constitutional Amendments on Life and Marriage
http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/10/22/herman-cain-exclusive-tells-brody-file-he-will-support-constitutional.aspx

10/21/11 - National Right To Life: Cain is Fully Pro Life
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/10/21/national-right-to-life-herman-cain-is-fully-pro-life/

6/24/11 - National Right to Life Conference Speech
http://hermancainissues.com/speeches/right-to-life-conference-speech-62411/

Herman Cain on Abortion
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Herman_Cain_Abortion.htm

2006 - African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/

5/11 - Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?LVMF—8Oz3-WCSgU7

10/17/11 - Cain Picks Clarence Thomas as Model for Supreme Court Pick
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/232604/20111017/herman-cain-clarence-thomas-supreme-court.htm

2004 - Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (Free Republic - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1063707/posts

5/17/11 - Alveda King - Yes. In our many conversations Mr. Cain has remained solid for life, marriage and family.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/africanamerican/blog/index.php/is-herman-cain-pro-life

1/18/11 - Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/

2004 - Herman Cain was endorsed by the Georgia Right-To-Life PAC in the 2004 US Senate GOP primary.

________________

Life, liberty & pursuit of happiness starts with unborn life
The Founding Fathers got it right. The Founding Fathers got it right because of those fundamental principles: life,
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They also got it in the right order. That wasn’t an accident. Their vision meant that you could pursue happiness in America as long as you don’t infringe upon the liberties of somebody else. And
you can pursue all the liberties that you want as long as you don’t infringe upon the life of anybody else. And that
starts with the life of the unborn.
Source: , May 1, 2011
_________________

Defund Planned Parenthood; intent was to kill black babies
I absolutely would defund Planned Parenthood—not because I don’t believe in planning parenthood, [but because]
Planned Parenthood as an organization is an absolute farce on the American people.

People who know the history of Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood, they know that the intention was not to help young women who get pregnant to plan their parenthood. No—it was a sham to be able to kill black babies.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011
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I believe that life begins at conception, period. And that means that I will have to see enough evidence that someone
would appoint shares that same view. I believe that the current Supreme Court is leaning too much to the liberal side. ...there is no way I would compromise my religious beliefs about the sanctity of life. And so it starts with, will they have demonstrated, in some of their other rulings, if they come from the federal judge bench, whether or not they also share that.

Because I believe that the principles that our Founding Fathers cherished, when they founded this country, and wrote the Declaration of Independence which inspired the Constitution, they were based upon biblical principles. I want to get back to those principles as president, if I run and get elected—not rewrite those documents.
ontheissues.org


48 posted on 10/23/2011 7:32:47 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

Okay, the article is dated 9/13/06, which is good. The money was spent on a radio campaign in 2006, with the $1 million dollars mentioned.

From this article:

“Cain will underscore that message with a $1 million advertising campaign in key states and congressional districts targeting black radio programs and urban radio stations young African Americans enjoy. Some of the ads focus on abortion.”

One could imply that perhaps Cain is funding it from this statement, however...


The ads are funded by Americas PAC, a Cain-backed organization, which former Al Gore campaign manager Donna Brazile said did a great job in turning out black pro-life votes.

So, obviously, Cain contributed money to this PAC to be used for the ads...however...


From another source snip:

“According to a report filed with the Internal Revenue Service, a company reportedly tied to Mr. Rooney, Woodland Group LLC, gave $900,000 to America’s PAC earlier this year. Other donors chipped in about $32,000.”

America’s PAC is a 527. It spent around $650,000 on media in 2006. Herman Cain was the spokesman. From the article:

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather’s Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community.”You don’t have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this,” he said.

Bottom line: There is no evidence that Cain personally spent $1,000,000 of his own money for the pro-life based on the article you sourced.

Source below:

A little-known Republican group that claims to have swayed the 2004 presidential election with provocative radio advertising aimed at black and Hispanic audiences is spending nearly $1 million this year to boost the GOP’s chances of holding on to a majority in Congress.

The group, America’s Pac, began running ads last month in more than two dozen congressional districts.The campaign discusses issues ranging from warrantless wiretapping to school choice, but the most inflammatory spots pertain to abortion.

“Black babies are terminated at triple the rate of white babies,” a female announcer in one of the ads says, as rain, thunder, and a crying infant are heard in the background. “The Democratic Party supports these abortion laws that are decimating our people, but the individual’s right to life is protected in the Republican platform. Democrats say they want our vote.Why don’t they want our lives?”

Another ad features a dialogue between two men.

“If you make a little mistake with one of your ‘hos,’ you’ll want to dispose of that problem tout suite, no questions asked,” one of the men says.

“That’s too cold. I don’t snuff my own seed,” the other replies.

“Maybe you do have a reason to vote Republican,” the first man says.

Another spot attempts to link Democrats to a white supremacist who served as a Republican in the Louisiana Legislature, David Duke.The ad makes reference to Duke’s trip to Syria last year, where he spoke at an anti-war rally.

“I can understand why a Ku Klux Klan cracker like David Duke makes nice with the terrorists,”a male voice in the ad says. “What I want to know is why so many of the Democrat politicians I helped elect are on the same side of the Iraq war as David Duke.”

In one of the communities where the ads are running, South Bend, Ind.,some blacks were outraged.

“They’re awful.They’re repulsive,” a Democratic activist and community leader in South Bend, Gladys Muhammad, said. “When they say Democrats don’t like black babies, that’s damn fools.They’re very insensitive.”

“This is so dirty, but it works,” a sociology professor at Indiana University, Johnnie Griffin, said. “These are race ads. It’s incredible.”

While Ms. Griffin said she felt insulted by the ads, she also said a student in her class reported that a relative was thinking of switching to the Republican Party because of them. “Black people are more conservative than anybody thinks. We do have strong family values that people don’t seem to stress as much,” the professor said.

Ms. Griffin said a community meeting is planned for Friday to discuss the ad campaign. The key financial backer of America’s Pac is J. Patrick Rooney, 78, of Indianapolis. Mr. Rooney, a strong proponent of school choice scholarship programs, retired in 1996 as chairman of Golden Rule Insurance. The company was sold to larger insurer, United-Health Group, in 2003 for a reported $893 million.

According to a report filed with the Internal Revenue Service, a company reportedly tied to Mr. Rooney, Woodland Group LLC, gave $900,000 to America’s PAC earlier this year. Other donors chipped in about $32,000.

Mr. Rooney declined to be interviewed yesterday. The group referred calls from The New York Sun to a conservative, African-American talk show host who voiced some of the ads, Herman Cain.

“The main thing that America’s Pac is up to is it basically is challenging the thesis or the belief on the part of the Republican Party that they cannot attract the black vote,” Mr. Cain said. He said similar advertisements run in 2004 helped boost President Bush’s share of the black vote in Ohio to 16%, from 9% in 2000.

“We don’t believe that was an accident,” Mr. Cain said. The IRS filing indicates that the ads are running this year in 10 battleground states, including Ohio, New Mexico, and Nevada.

Mr. Cain, who once managed the Godfather’s Pizza chain and ran unsuccessfully for the Senate from Georgia in 2004, said he was not troubled that Mr. Rooney, who is white, is funding ads using black voices who claim to speak on behalf of the black community.”You don’t have a lot of black billionaires who would want to fund something like this,” he said.

America’s Pac is the brainchild of a Kansas-based Republican consultant, Richard Nadler.He said Sunday that he is no longer affiliated with the group.

http://www.nysun.com/national/republican-group-chides-democrats-with-abortion/41648/


49 posted on 10/23/2011 7:34:15 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

” Do you have a source to that’s where and how Cain spent or contributed his $1,000,000 ? “

The LifeNews article is poorly constructed.
It implies that America’s PAC paid for the ads , but, describing it
as a “ Cain backed “ group could give the impression
that Cain was the major donor.

The 527 PAC filing is here http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/527/americas_pac.asp
The Republican Leadership Coalition contributed almost a million
to the PAC in 2004.

Cain’s name does not appear in the contributions ledger.
The expense side lists this :
A new Voice
825 Fairways Court
#303
Stockbridge, GA 30281 $1,000 Spokesperson services 11/04/2004

A New Voice is the company owned by Gloria and Herman Cain.
More info about America’s PAC donors here
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00184143


50 posted on 10/23/2011 7:39:14 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Solson

The candidates should be attacking Obama and his administration, instead of each other. They should be talking about their plans to fix our country. NEWT GINGRICH 2012


51 posted on 10/23/2011 8:11:55 PM PDT by duffee (FOR VOTER ID, one LEGAL voter, one vote)
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To: justsaynomore; Gipper08

Ouch! Gipper08 just got pwned!

Contemplate on that, Gipper08. Think before you type.


52 posted on 10/23/2011 8:21:56 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: drewh
“It is a liberal canard to say I am personally pro-life, but government should stay out of that decision, If that is your view, you are not pro-life, You are pro having your cake and eating it too.”

This is how he said it, not all split up.

And he is EXACTLY correct. That is the Dick Durban pro life view. Cain & Durban see eye to eye on this issue.

53 posted on 10/23/2011 9:35:59 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great point! Bump!


54 posted on 10/23/2011 10:53:35 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Perry is a good man but his one on one debates with Obama keeps me awake at nights.)
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To: faucetman

Even if the Pope was elected president, he can not single handedly stop every abortion. In our system, it will require a ruling by SCOTUS, and the 9 justices do not change often. What I want to see in the candidate I support is that he/she appoints pro-life judges and non-activist judges. That is one path to stopping abortions. The other is changing constitution.

I have seen nothing in Cain, Bachmann, Santorum which would lead me to believe they would appoint pro-abortion judges. So, who ever Perry was taking pot shots at, it has zero practical effect.


55 posted on 10/23/2011 11:15:48 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Perry is a good man but his one on one debates with Obama keeps me awake at nights.)
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To: magritte
What is the source for Cain spending a million of his own money? What did you do with it? Where did he give it?

Leon Wolfe a mea-culpa on Herman Cain and abortion

RedState.com had jumped full force onto the Cain abortion mis-statements, running miltiple front page posts accusing Cain of being pro-choice. Then they took the time to actually look at Cain's past history. The result was the thread above.

56 posted on 10/24/2011 9:09:02 AM PDT by Brookhaven (I believe in the seperation of school and state)
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To: Brookhaven

I saw that, but the statement that Cain spent $1,000,000 of his own money is unsupported by the facts. He is clearly pro-life, so it’s not necessary to spread that particular falsehood.


57 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:41 PM PDT by magritte
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To: UnwashedPeasant

yeah...Cain is pro-choice...it is pretty clear to anyone not in a cult.


58 posted on 10/26/2011 8:11:02 PM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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