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Cain clarifies again: Abortion shouldn’t be legal, but some families might decide to break the law
HotAir ^ | Saturday October 21, 2011

Posted on 10/22/2011 5:50:47 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full Title: Cain clarifies again: Abortion shouldn’t be legal, but some families might decide to break the law anyway.

A better answer than yesterday’s spin attempt but Mediaite is right that it still doesn’t jibe with what he said to Piers Morgan. Then:

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision…

The government shouldn’t be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to a social decision that they need to make.

Now:

Look, abortion should not be legal. That is clear. But if that family makes the decision to break the law, that’s that family’s decision. That’s all I’m trying to say.

Big difference between (a) the government shouldn’t tell you what to do about “sensitive” social decisions and (b) the government should tell you what to do by criminalizing one of your options. In fact, per Heinze at the The Hill and Philip Klein at the Examiner, even in today’s answer there’s an element of choice insofar as Cain suggests that a pregnant woman might end up breaking the law to get an illegal abortion. That’s, er, true — some of them would end up doing that — but it’s an odd note for a man in his position to sound. Rarely do would-be presidents acknowledge lawbreaking as an option

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Comment #241 Removed by Moderator

To: presently no screen name; TigersEye; MestaMachine; ConservativeMind; jla; ...
That was NOT the link (RP) that was posted to me on this site. It would be a lot easier if it were!

If it was posted to you, you can find it easily in your pings. All posts to you, as well as your posts, are there. So, post the source!

242 posted on 10/24/2011 5:04:27 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Netizen; presently no screen name; All
If it was posted to you, you can find it easily in your pings. All posts to you, as well as your posts, are there. So, post the source!

The troll in question (presently-no-screen-name) claimed that Herman Cain AND his church voted for 0bama in his post #25 of this thread. I responded with "name your source, and the URL" and no answer at all.

Such is the method of the attack-troll, they come into a thread, post some lies thinking they won't be challenged on it, and then grow indignant should anyone challenge them to back up their falsehoods. That is why Zot-Lightning was made, for a POS like that.
243 posted on 10/24/2011 5:55:34 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: mkjessup

Exactly. The thing is, the alleged ‘source’ is on their pings. I have often used my pings to relocate something.

The poster should not be allowed to make claims like that without supplying a source. jmo


244 posted on 10/24/2011 5:59:19 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Luther1917; All
Santorum said Thursday in a statement. “It is unconscionable for Herman to run for the nomination of the party that stands in defense of life while showing disregard for the sanctity of life. You cannot be both personally against abortion while condoning it—you can’t have it both ways. We must defend the defenseless, period.”

Too bad that effin' hypocrite Santorum didn't embrace that sentiment when he chose to support that PRO-CHOICE RINO-traitor ARLEN SPECTER against the PRO-LIFE Pat Toomey in 2004.

That right there disqualifies Sanatorium from opening his piehole on ANY subject relating to the sanctity of life. He tossed his alleged principals right out the window to cozy up to a pro-choice scumbag like Arlen Sphincter.
245 posted on 10/24/2011 6:03:13 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: mkjessup

Hey twerp! YOU are the POS troll!


246 posted on 10/24/2011 7:31:10 AM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: mkjessup

Hey twerp! YOU are the POS troll!

Where is my answer to where are Cain’s credentials you claim he has to be president? I asked that question and it never gets answered. CEO that closes stores and watches the bottom line to please shareholders doesn’t cut it!


247 posted on 10/24/2011 7:34:35 AM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: mkjessup
That right there disqualifies Sanatorium from opening his piehole on ANY subject relating to the sanctity of life

Well, then that disqualifies Cain from opening his piehole on ANY subject relating to the sanctity of life since he endorsed Romney in '08.
248 posted on 10/24/2011 7:38:45 AM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: presently no screen name; All
Hey nice try, but before you try that not-so-clever trick, NAME YOUR SOURCE AND URL FOR YOUR CLAIM THAT CAIN AND HIS CHURCH VOTED FOR OBAMA!!! Until you do that, nothing you have to say means a bloody thing, got it?
249 posted on 10/24/2011 8:17:47 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: presently no screen name; Kartographer; All
Where is my answer to where are Cain’s credentials you claim he has to be president? I asked that question and it never gets answered. CEO that closes stores and watches the bottom line to please shareholders doesn’t cut it!

Hey douchebag, "send to receive", i.e., you cite YOUR source and URL for your lyin' BS about Cain and his church "voting for 0bama" and then you can start making demands.

However since you are obviously intellectually challenged, I am pinging Kartographer to this thread, he will be more than happy to cite Herman Cain's credentials to serve as POTUS.
250 posted on 10/24/2011 8:21:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: Luther1917

Santorum is a liar and so are you.


251 posted on 10/24/2011 8:26:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: presently no screen name
To: presently no screen name

You can either post the proof, or STHU or take a freaking hike!!

101 posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:34:03 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)

What part of this post did you not get?

Or this post?

Post your source or admit you never had one.

252 posted on 10/24/2011 8:34:47 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mkjessup

About Herman Cain: My Story I was raised in Atlanta, Georgia by loving and hardworking parents. We grew up poor, but we grew up happy. Things weren’t always easy, but my mom and dad knew that if they kept their faith in God, faith in themselves and their faith in the greatest country in the world, they, too, could achieve their American Dream.
That dream, we discovered, was for my parents to own their own home and watch their two sons graduate from college. Those dreams required that my father work three jobs to support our family.
The first dream was realized in a brick home on Albert Street. I can still recall the excitement of the day, as he surprised us—even my mother—when he drove us to our new home.
Their second dream was realized when I proudly accepted my degree in mathematics from Morehouse College in 1967 and my brother graduated from Morris Brown College. Both of my father’s American Dreams were achieved. Now, I set off to achieve mine.
One year after graduating, I married the love of my life, Gloria. And together, we started our journey to achieve our Dreams. This meant relocating to Indiana where I would begin my Master’s degree program at Purdue University, while working full-time as a mathematician at the Department of the Navy.
After earning my Master’s degree and six years working for the Department of the Navy, we returned home to Atlanta, where I began to climb the corporate ladder with the Coca-Cola Company. I faced challenges, but I always remembered the values my parents taught me. With enough faith and determination, I knew I could go as high in corporate America as I desired.
I enjoyed a successful career at the Coca-Cola Company and later moved to the Pillsbury Company. Within a short period, I rose to the position of Vice President. When I got there, I thought I had already achieved my American Dream on the 31st floor of the new Pillsbury Corporate Headquarters with a corner office. But I quickly realized I wanted something more.
I resigned my position and started on another path- the restaurant industry. I knew that in order to be successful, I had to start from “the ground up.” This meant broiling hamburgers at Pillsbury’s Burger King division. After nine months of a grueling restaurant experience, I was assigned to lead a low performing region of 450 Burger King restaurants. Within three years, we became the best-performing region in the U.S.
I could have been content with my executive role with one of America’s biggest corporations. Instead, after consulting with my wife, we decided to take one of the biggest risks of our marriage: picking up our young family, relocating yet again and accepting the call to become CEO and President of Godfather’s Pizza, a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.
In 14 months, we turned the company around and returned it to profitability, and I ultimately led my management team to a buyout of Godfather’s Pizza. The company never went bankrupt, and today, there are still hundreds of locations across the U.S.
My success at turning around Godfather’s got the attention of fellow restaurateurs around the nation who invited me to join the Board of Directors of the National Restaurant Association and later elected me its chairman. In 1996, they retained me as the full-time President and the CEO of the National Restaurant Association, working on behalf of thousands of small businesses and entrepreneurs.
In 1994, as chairman of the National Restaurant Association, I had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, I challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed.
President Clinton attempted to assure me and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.
I was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” I said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.”
Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, I began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to my acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and I was subsequently elected their chairman.
Today, I host a radio talk show, “The Herman Cain Show,” on Atlanta’s WSB 750 AM/ 95.5 FM. I serve as a regular contributor on several broadcast networks and as a keynote speaker at conferences and events around the nation.
Despite the many professional commitments of my life, I continued to enjoy most the time spent with family and friends. As my children got married and had their own children, I knew that I had an extraordinary obligation to do what I could to make this a safe and prosperous nation for them. The paramount joys in my life are my wife, Gloria, our children and our grandchildren.
I am grateful for the many professional successes I have enjoyed. I am grateful for the steadfast loyalty and unwavering love of my family and friends. And I am grateful for this country that is so exceptional that I was afforded the opportunity to achieve my American Dreams.
I’m not done yet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHomZF3JGBg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk6PA48uR50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOFB-2yJzCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejz073gdtWc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QXFloS-xo8


253 posted on 10/24/2011 8:41:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: TigersEye; presently no screen name; All
Thanks for the post TigersEye, that POS without a screen name must think that will prevent them from being ZOTTED, but I predict they'll soon be smelling ozone.

Here, "presently no screen name", JimRob meant this, because he posted it TWICE (at #98 AND at #97), you would be well advised to govern yourself accordingly:

To: presently no screen name

You’d better have more proof than that, before posting trollish bullshit!

97 posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:30:21 PM by Jim Robinson


OK PNSN, it's put up or shut up time.
254 posted on 10/24/2011 8:41:46 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: Kartographer; presently no screen name; All
Thank you for that post Kartographer, I am pinging the troll in question in addition to everyone else in the thread.
255 posted on 10/24/2011 8:43:50 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: mkjessup
Hey douchebag

Look you piece of trash - you come out every election cycle throwing you weight around - DON'T throw it my way again!

STOP posting to me or I WILL CONSIDER IT HARASSMENT as I find YOU a THREAT! Your posts are proof.
256 posted on 10/24/2011 10:41:54 AM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: presently no screen name

Back up your claim or shut up.


257 posted on 10/24/2011 10:49:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: presently no screen name; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson; All
Look you piece of trash - you come out every election cycle throwing you weight around - DON'T throw it my way again!

Stuff it punk. If you post on FR, ANYONE (and that includes me) can respond to it. You're a lyin' troll and you've been called out by no less than our Founder Jim Robinson. If I were you I wouldn't take that lightly.

STOP posting to me or I WILL CONSIDER IT HARASSMENT as I find YOU a THREAT! Your posts are proof.

Hey Sparky, if you post something and I want to respond, there ain't nothing you can do about it. A THREAT?

Gimme a freakin' break. The only thing that could possibly make you feel threatened is the fact that you've been caught with your trollin' pants down, and you can't back up your claims, and YOUR posts are all the proof that anyone needs to establish that.

You've stated that Herman Cain and his church voted for 0bama. MANY FReepers have demanded that you back it up with a source and a URL, and JimRob himself weighed in on it.

Once again, cough up the proof, or be exposed as the lyin' troll you are.
258 posted on 10/24/2011 11:11:47 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: presently no screen name
ADIOS LOSER!

259 posted on 10/24/2011 11:22:41 AM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: mkjessup
Call down the thunder ...

...ride the lightning.

260 posted on 10/24/2011 11:38:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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