Cain’s 9-9-9 Becomes 9.1-9.1-9.1; Vegas Hosted Fight Night; Bachmann’s NH Staff Quits

Pajama's Media ^ | October 21, 2011 | Brian Preston

[Cincinatus' Wife]

..... "Romney has continued the negative campaigning against Perry (but no one else) with a “new” website called CareerPolitician.com, but that site has already boomeranged back on Romney: He has owned that domain name since his last losing political run in 2007. Who’s the real career politician now?

Rick Perry’s run in the debate was a risky one, and he may trade some short term poll weakness for long-term gains. Polls a week or three from now will tell us if the risk/reward equation works out for him. I suspect it will; people like a leader and they like a fighter, and as much as we all claim to hate negative campaigning, it’s effective as long as it’s not overly personal. Romney’s “I can’t have illegals here for Pete’s sake, I’m running for office” is going to stick to him.".....

[Cincinatus' Wife]

That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. -- Mitt Romney, GOP presidential debate - October 18, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV

Rudy Giuliani asked Mitt Romney the same question in the 2008 CNN debate that Rick Perry asked him during the CNN 2011 debate -- Mitt lost it both times.

Nov 28, 2008 CNN-YouTube Debate: Sound familiar? [LOOK who interrupts whom!!]

Funny Accent Mitt Romney, discussing reports illegal immigrants did landscaping at his home: It would "not be American" to check workers' papers simply because they have a "funny accent." [acknowledges need for giving health care and education to illegals]

Sound familiar? Mike Huckabee, replying to Romney's criticism of providing college scholarships to children of illegal immigrants: "In all due respect, we are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did."

At the same debate: John McCain: "We must recognize these are God's children as well. ... I will enforce the borders first. But we won't demagogue it."

[PapaNew]

If repealing the 16th Amendment to abolish the income tax isn’t a requirement before creating the sales tax, then 999 could become 911.

[Grunthor]

http://nationaljournal.com/politics/for-perry-a-rapid-fundraising-rise-and-fall-20111020

[Ingtar]

Rick Who?

[Cincinatus' Wife]

“Where’s the beef” to go with that headline?

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[perfect_rovian_storm]

Rick Perry. You know, the 3rd tier candidate who’s polling somewhere between Jon Huntsman and the Ebola virus.

[CMAC51]

If repealing the 16th Amendment to abolish the income tax isn’t a requirement before creating the sales tax, then 999 could become 911.

I fully support the concept of the Fair Tax without any income tax. Unfortunately, you can't get there in one jump. There is too much inventory which already has embedded taxes. Business and finance are set up to deal with income tax and will need time to transition fully.

The Cain 9-9-9 plan is actually well thought out in providing a transition to sales tax; incentives for business to adapt, limit the shock to the system and provide a stimulus to production, consumer spending and exports.

Based on history, fears of escalating taxes are unfounded. Since the inception of the income tax Congress has continually attemtped to increase revenue by raising tax rates. They have never succeeded in getting Federal Revenue above 20% of GDP. The market adapts to quickly.

[Talisker]

If repealing the 16th Amendment to abolish the income tax isn’t a requirement before creating the sales tax, then 999 could become 911.

Would.

[Talisker]

Unfortunately, you can't get there in one jump. There is too much inventory which already has embedded taxes. Business and finance are set up to deal with income tax and will need time to transition fully.

Unfortunately, you can't get there in one jump. There are too many bowling balls being held onto to just let them go and pull the ripcord of the parachute. No, the best way is to open the parachute and hang onto the bowling balls at the same time, and then slowly transition to just have the parachute, while leaving bowling-ball collectors in charge of which bowling balls to let go of.

Hey - if you can use nonsensical, bogus, illogical, pseudo-logic to support an absolutely self-contradictory concept, so can I.

[Talisker]

Based on history, fears of escalating taxes are unfounded. Since the inception of the income tax Congress has continually attemtped to increase revenue by raising tax rates.

Self-parody as a technique to deny further argument? I suppose this is the intellectual version of kicking over the table to prevent your opponent from playing his hand.

Taxes won't be raised, because historically, Congress raises taxes.

Yep.

[PapaNew]

I fully support the concept of the Fair Tax without any income tax.

Me too. But until then, change the income tax to around a 10% flat tax and abolish the income tax code.

Repealing the 16th Amendment will be no five-minute job because among other things, doing so would destroy entire industries and bureaucracies dependent on the convoluted tax code that no one understands.

[Hugin]

“Rick Perry. You know, the 3rd tier candidate who’s polling somewhere between Jon Huntsman and the Ebola virus.”

Actually not. The RCP average has Cain 26%, Romeny 25.5%, and Perry 12.5%, the rest in single digits (Huntsman 2%).

[bigbob]

Hot Air lives up to it’s name.

Those bloggers suffer from the “We’re smarter than you are” diseasea as much as the libs.

[Ron C.]

'The Beef' for Perry is in the following graph. He is raising money faster than Romney.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Bump!

[Ron C.]

~grin~

AND - for the Cain supporters - in that graph, look at where Cain is financially - in the fundraising race.

Sad for him, he's just not in the race.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

Well, it was a bit of an exaggeration, but not much.

I meant in primary states, not nationally. It takes a while for an imploded campaign to disappear nationally.

You know, states like Iowa, where Ras has Perry at 7%.

Or New Hampshire where Perry is polling at 2% (LOL!) in more than one poll.

Or the very important Florida, where Perry is polling at 3% in at least one poll.

He’s barely hanging on to double digits in SC. My guess is he’ll be down to about 5% within a week or two.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

Well, it was a bit of an exaggeration, but not much.

I meant in primary states, not nationally. It takes a while for an imploded campaign to disappear nationally.

You know, states like Iowa, where Ras has Perry at 7%.

Or New Hampshire where Perry is polling at 2% (LOL!) in more than one poll.

Or the very important Florida, where Perry is polling at 3% in at least one poll.

He’s barely hanging on to double digits in SC. My guess is he’ll be down to about 5% within a week or two.