Posted on 10/21/2011 12:15:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
Detectives and FBI agents spent roughly 17 hours on Wednesday searching the property at 3620 North Lister Avenue.
Court documents reveal a list of items taken as evidence. The items include a multicolor comforter, purple shorts, a multicolor Disney character shirt, a Glo Worm toy, a "Cars"-themed blanket, rolls of tape and a tape dispenser.
Lisa was reported missing early on the morning of Oct. 4.
"Investigative interviews with the people involved revealed conflicting information for clear direction in the investigation," an affidavit supporting the warrant said. "(Deborah) Bradley made the statement she did not initially look for her baby behind the house because she 'was afraid of what she might find.'"
The affidavit also revealed that "On October 17, 2011, an FBI cadaver dog was brought into the residence upon consent of Irwin and Bradley. The cadaver dog indicated a positive 'hit' for the scent of a deceased human in an area of the floor of Bradley's bedroom near the bed."
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I can think of a dozen things that could have befallen this sweet baby if mother was "out of it." You just can't take your eyes off them for a second, even while in full command of your faculties.
Concur. I seriously doubt that "cadaver dogs" can distinguish between the odors of decay from a human body vs, for instance, a mouse/rat/squirrel. The chemical products of decay are the same for any mammal.
Also, when was the baby killed?
Did the neighbor ever see the baby or did the mother use her and “being drunk” as an alibi? When did anyone other than the mother and father last see the baby?
I think it was the previous day at a party.
So the baby could have been dead over 24 hours. Just a thought.
From the Illinois Police Working Dog:
http://www.ilpwda.com/faqs.htm
Cadaver dogs are trained specifically to detect human versus animal remains.
FWIW
How long was the baby dead?
The mother could have had the neighbor over as an alibi. Did anyone other than the mother and the father see the baby recently?
From CSI Crime Sniffing Dogs
http://www.biologycorner.com/anatomy/senses/crimedogs.html
10 minutes from death.
Oh dear God.
Have you done any research on cadaver dogs?
No, but I do understand the chemistry of decomposition (I'm a chemist). The decomposition products of mammal flesh are the same (cadaverine is cadaverine (and other decomposition products)) across species. If the dogs are able to distinguish dead human from dead (insert your favorite mammal here), they have to be keying on something other than decomposition products.
I'd be very interested in how they do it.
I think the removal of the carpet is a pretty clear indication that the police believe the dogs hit on something -
According to DOJ stats infants and babies under a year old who are murdered are almost always murdered by their mother.
Considering the long delay in confessing her alleged drunken state which came right about the time Deborah got her sleazy lawyer and considering that the police apparently didn’t smell alcohol on her breath or do any testing for drugs or alcohol on October 4th...considering all of that I would guess Deborah was sober and coherent when the police arrived and that her brand new story about being drunk as a skunk is the floorboards of her legal defense (courtesy of the sleazy attorney) and this new story about being drunk has no basis in truth.
I read online that it takes about 90 minutes (an hour and a half) for decomp to be strong enough for a cadaver dog to smell it. That is not very long at all.
Well she is caught on camera purchasing wine so someone drank it. And your right about her lawyer, he’s the same scumbag that defended Joran Van Der Sloot..so I guess the saying about birds of a feather flocking together is true. The stories from the eyewitnesses, I believe the 1st eyewitness is being truthful when they said they saw a man walking with a baby at around midnight..but the other eyewitness who says he saw the same baby at around 4am doesn’t ring true to me. The baby was with this guy wandering the streets for four hours! No way, so that one is a false lead. The dogs smelled death near Deborah’s bed so whatever happened to baby Lisa happened in the bedroom, either she smothered her accidentally and pulled this Susan Smith crap or she hit her in a drunken rage..dog scents dont lie, if they smelled death, death was in that house
Deborah Bradley is a liar probably on a level near that of Casey Anthony. Anything she has said must be taken with a grain of salt unless someone credible can back her up.
No. The dogs are trained for ONE scent and ONLY that ONE scent. They can disregard all other smells around them when they are working and only search for that one smell.
Human decay is different from other scents to trained dogs. Perhaps not to you or me or other humans...they might all smell equally bad to us depending on various factors but trained dogs can and do differentiate between human decay and rotting squirrels.
I purchase wine every time we entertain at home and I would guess I am video taped at the store when I buy it. But I do not drink wine or any other alcoholic beverage. Therefore, it is possible that Deborah also bought wine that she either did not drink that night or that she did not consume to the point of drinking herself into a drunken black out state. Perhaps Deborah bought the wine for her brother who presumably is under age. She would hardly be eager to tell LE if she did that.
I guess they can always interview the woman she was supposedly drinking with on the stoop of her house. She claims they were drinking together. The only reason why I see her saying she was drunk is as an excuse to say she was drunk and that is why her baby died..kinda like Casey Anthony “It was an accident that snowballed out of control” unfortunately after that case, you will be seeing more parents pulling the same stunt
“I wonder how long a person would have to be deceased, to leave a scent a dog could pick up on.”
Yes, I was wondering that too.
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