[Las Vegas Ron]

The big things shaping up seem to be getting government and corporations out of each others pockets, and campaign finance

Uh huh....sniff, sniff....

How's about electing some good 'ol Conservative, ethical Tea Party type politicians?

You sound like the libs who blame Corporations instead of the corrupt idiots who make the laws, accept the money, get rich off of the cash they forced legitimate businesses to "pay to play".

[cripplecreek]

People often overlook the events that actually brought the nazis to power and I can tell you that it wasn't a promise to kill the Jews.

Gold is not neccesary. I have no interest in gold. We will build a solid state, without an ounce of gold behind it. Anyone who sells above the set prices, let him be marched off to a concentration camp. That's the bastion of money.

-Adolph Hitler.

They used the anger over the disastrous Wiemar Republic to get people of very different ideologies out into the streets demanding change.

The efficiency of the truly national leader consists primarily in preventing the division of the attention of a people, and always in concentrating it on a single enemy.

-Adolph Hitler.

[CH3CN]

It’s sort of like which was first, the politicians getting into bed with corporations, or, corporations getting into bed with politicians. At this point it is so ingrained in the system I don’t think it matters that much any more. It just has to stop. All I know is that the politicians represent big money. If you ain’t got any money, they don’t represent you. And, it’s not going to get better until we figure out a way to make it painful for them.

That’s what I explained to the OWS guy. We can’t change the corporations as long as what they do is legal, but we can sure as heck change our representatives. Finding good, honest, and decent ones is the seemingly impossible task.