Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

JustiaGate
The Examiner ^ | 10-20-2011 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 10/20/2011 1:12:42 PM PDT by Danae

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 281-289 next last
To: Danae
From there, Conservative Talk Radio. Once it hits THERE... then the MSM will pick it up. If it does. They are so in the tank for Obama....

Too bad, because conservative talk radio won't touch it. They have been a firewall on this issue from the beginning. Who knows why.

81 posted on 10/20/2011 4:23:17 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: Menehune56

:)

I will be posting any followups.

I am expecting more today. If not today, then tomorrow I would think.


82 posted on 10/20/2011 4:27:05 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: humblegunner

Your flights of intellectual superiority are stunning.


83 posted on 10/20/2011 4:38:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Danae; STARWISE
Article II Section 1 assigns the State Legislatures to determine the manner in which Presidential electors are appointed. Under the 12th Amendment, said electors vote. The sealed votes are directed to the President of the Senate. He opens the ballots in the presence of both Houses and the votes are counted. Simple.

The Senate resolved that McCain was eligible. That body would not contest a majority vote for him. If he received the majority vote, there was nothing you, nor any court, including Scotus could do to prevent a McCain Presidency. Sorry.

84 posted on 10/20/2011 4:41:02 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Jacquerie
He should never have been on the Ballot.Because he had the same problem, at least in so far as he had to get some qualifier, he could NOT and in fact DID NOT challenge a man who was BLATANTLY not a Natural Born Citizen. because of McCain's fragility on this issue, it stuck us with a man who is NOT Constitutionally qualified. That is damn near unforgivable regardless of where you stand on McCain's eligibility.
85 posted on 10/20/2011 4:44:16 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: Semper911

You could be right. Though in all honesty, they like everyone else would have searched this stuff too, and come up with nothing, thanks in part to Justia’s scrubbing.

Its sickening.

Anyway, with this information, they may indeed bring it to the top. I hope so, America CANNOT afford to ever have another unconstitutional POTUS. This one is has been horrible for America.


86 posted on 10/20/2011 4:46:16 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Danae

Discussion from July: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2742925/posts


87 posted on 10/20/2011 4:55:42 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: El Sordo
;)

Are you stalking me?? LOL

Thanks ElSordo! I have been working with him on this. BRILLIANT mind... absolutely brilliant.

88 posted on 10/20/2011 5:08:43 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: Danae

“Because he had the same problem, at least in so far as he had to get some qualifier, he could NOT and in fact DID NOT challenge a man who was BLATANTLY not a Natural Born Citizen.”

Maybe that’s why the Powers That Be in the parties and media were so keen on him running this particular time? To assure an Obama win. If Obama’s eligibility had for some reason been brought up, the Dems could point to McCain being in the same boat, and the Republicans would have folded, because the looming chaos would have been bad for the country.


89 posted on 10/20/2011 5:14:28 PM PDT by DBrow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: DBrow

Well, it is known in press circles that the Obama campaign wanted to run against McCain more than say Romney. It would not surprise me that this had something to do with it. But I can’t say that with anything remotely close to certainty.

All I know for certain is that someone at Justia changed SCOTUS cases, and we have it documented. I know the founder is an Obama supporter. I know Justia is in Nancy Pelosi’s district... I know Nancy signed TWO certifications for Obama in Denver....

Gee, do you think Nancy knew? Umm hummm.


90 posted on 10/20/2011 5:22:49 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Danae

Great research, Danae, thanks.


91 posted on 10/20/2011 5:24:28 PM PDT by DBrow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: Danae

No judge will remove a Presidential candidate from the ballot. Thank God.


92 posted on 10/20/2011 5:24:42 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: afraidfortherepublic

>No. As I understand it he was born in another hospital in Panama City — not the military hospital. That was the whole problem.<

Not looking for a constitutional argument, but will state one thing. It has been pretty well established and seems rightly so that the founders would not have wanted to exclude NBC from a child who’s parents were serving the United States at the time in the form of service.

So even back in the day, should a child have been born overseas in a foreign land as long as both parents were citizens - it stands to reason that they would have brought the child up with allegiance to the USA.

that was the intent of the NBC clause. That parents have allegiance and raise the child to have the same.

If he was born in a tent in eastern mongolia - as long as the parents were both citizens and serving the USA in an official capacity, it stands to reason that the founders wouldn’t have cared.


93 posted on 10/20/2011 5:55:15 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Armando Guerra
Whether "natural born citizens" includes children born within the borders without reference to the parents is in doubt but not resolved for purposes of this case.

NO, NO, NO. What is in 'doubt' is if they are CITIZENS, not natural born Citizens. The purpose of this passage is to acknowledge the issues of the infamous 14th Amendment - PERIOD.

The reason is it not necessary to solve is because Minor's citizenship was NOT based on the 14th Amendment. She was a citizen without the 14th Amendment. So the statement 'it is not necessary to solve these doubts.' means the judgment is simply not addressing the overly broad interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Why - because Minor WAS, BY DEFINITION IN THE RULING, a natural born Citizen.

What the ruling is saying is - "if you got your citizenship from the 14th Amendment you are specifically NOT a native or natural born Citizen." Native or natural born Citizen is specifically defined and specifically separated out from "anchor babies". THAT is what this passage is about. And that is why it specifically defines - legally - natural born Citizen.

Since Obama definitely belongs the class where 'there are doubts' by SCOTUS DEFINITION, he does not belong the class where there are no doubts - the class being that of native or natural born Citizen. And yes, the definition says 'parents' (PLURAL). Mommy alone does not get it done - BY SCOTUS DEFINITION.

94 posted on 10/20/2011 5:56:54 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: humblegunner; Danae

Didn’t have any pop up on me!

You should install a pop-up blocker and ad blocker. They work wonderfully! :)

Danae,
Great article - this is huge, huge!


95 posted on 10/20/2011 6:05:18 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Danae

Well done, Danae! Excellent work!


96 posted on 10/20/2011 6:07:33 PM PDT by Faith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: Jacquerie

LOL

Who said that was the job of a judge to begin with?

But you are wrong on that, Jusges HAVE removed candidates from the ballot for fraud. How is this not fraud?

http://troyrecord.com/articles/2011/10/14/news/doc4e9722f6ac593499002145.txt

Shoot, just run a quick search... http://www.bing.com/search?q=judge+removes+candidate+from+ballot&go=&qs=HS&sk=&pq=judge+re&sp=1&sc=8-8&form=QBLH


97 posted on 10/20/2011 6:09:08 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: Danae
Gee, do you think Nancy knew? Umm hummm.

Definitely. Since she had to cover for the action - or rather inaction - of someone who definitely knew and knows.

That is Brian Schatz. Who would not sign a document attesting to Obama's eligibility - by Hawaiian law. So Nancy had to do the dirty deed. The locals would not do it. Even Abercrombie 'cant find the darn thing.'

98 posted on 10/20/2011 6:09:28 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: Munz

Wouldn’t have cared and the Law are two different things.

Either the law is the law, or we have total chaos.


99 posted on 10/20/2011 6:10:50 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: justlurking
He was not. McCain was born in a Panamanian hospital: civilian, not military. While I'm not aware of the Supreme Court ruling on this specific issue, at least one of the commonly cited sources for terms in the Constitution (Vattel's Law of Nations, and Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England) says that one exception to the natural-borne citizen requirement is a child born abroad to citizen parents in the service of the country. Since McCain's father was a Navy officer stationed in Panama at the time, he would meet that exemption.

Absolutely correct. So few understand this very important point. When your father was aboroad in the service of the King, you were considered as born in-country. McCain was born to two American citizen parents, something Barry Soetoro cannot claim.

100 posted on 10/20/2011 6:13:10 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 281-289 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson