Posted on 10/20/2011 7:24:57 AM PDT by Colofornian
At an appearance at George Washington University...Bill Maher bounded into territory that the news media have been gingerly tiptoeing around.
Magic underwear. Baptizing dead people. Celestial marriages. Private planets. Racism. Polygamy.
“By any standard, Mormonism is more ridiculous than any other religion”...“It’s...founded on the idea of polygamy. They call it The Principle. That sounds like The Prime Directive in ‘Star Trek.’ ”
He said he expects the Romney crowd...to once more “gloss over the differences between Christians and Mormons.”
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Another famous nonbeliever, Christopher Hitchens, wrote in Slate...about “the weird and sinister belief system of the LDS”...
Aside from Joseph Smith, whom Hitchens calls “a fraud and conjurer well known to the authorities in upstate New York,” the writer also wonders about the Mormon practice of amassing archives of the dead...to “retrospectively ‘baptize’ everybody as a convert.”
Hitchens noted that they “got hold of a list of those put to death by the Nazis’ Final Solution” and “began making these massacred Jews into honorary LDS members as well.” He called it “a crass attempt at mass identity theft from the deceased.”
The Mormons even baptized Anne Frank.
It took Ernest Michel, then chairman of the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors, three years to get Mormons to agree to stop proxy-baptizing Holocaust victims.
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Kent Jackson, the associate dean of religion at Brigham Young University, says that while Mormons are Christians, “Mormonism is not part of the Christian family tree.”
It probably won’t comfort skeptical evangelicals and Catholics to know that Mormons think that while other Christians merely “have a portion of the truth, what God revealed to Joseph Smith is the fullness of the truth,” as Jackson says...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Would you support a Scientologist for President? Or a Muslim?”
It depends who they are.
...because you’re trying to prevent a person from being president, because of his religion.
Oh honey; that is just a SMALL part of it!
Plenty of Conservatives have hashed and re-hashed his lousy record; trying to find things that were supposedly conservative - there is no need for me to do that.
BUT; I can shed light on just another wee item of interest: his RELIGION.
Would YOU deny me that RIGHT to do that?”
I don’t mind talking about his record. You’re fear mongering about his religion, and it’s ridiculous to do that. You have a right to do it, but it’s bigoted, and would against the Constitution.
Don’t post all that, because I’m not going to read it.
I’m just challenging your bigotry.
You left out ‘alledged’.
You have failed to SHOW any yet.
You make the claim quite well though...”
Your hatred of his religion through out this thread, and not wanting him to be president, due to his religion.
.It’s un-American, and is already against the law to prevent someone from being president for that reason..
Your apples are mixed in with your oranges.
It is NOT against (some law) to TRY to prevent someone from being president WITH YOUR VOTE.”
It’s not just your vote; it’s what you’re basing it on. It’s bigotry, and goes against the Constitution.
It’s un-American, and is already against the law to prevent someone from being president for that reason.
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“FAIL. No it isn’t. Either of those. It is unconstitutional (not illegal get your facts straight) for the GOVERNMENT to impose a religious test, there is nothing about individual voters (in any state or federal) not imposing a religious test. Rather the opposite is true, to make individual voters not consider religion in voting (making it illegal) would be a violation of the first amendment.
However, it is unChristian to vote for someone who not only insults Christ (like the Mormons do) but also someone who takes oaths to put their CHURCH (not God, not Christ) above all things and to use everything including money and power for the building up their CHURCH (not God, not Christ, not the US) first while wearing an apron that signifies the priesthood of Satan (and yes I can source ALL of that from Mormon sources).
If you want the real story on how Mitt used his Mormonism while govenor of Mass and how he would use it as POTUS read “When Salt Lake City Calls” by Rocky Hulse.”
We do not have a state run Christian religion. You are a bigot, who doesn’t want any non-Christian to be president. The First Amendment allows for freedom of religion, and the qualifications of president in the Constitution do not mention religion. You saying that would be no different that me telling someone to not let blacks into their store. I may have a right to say that, but it’s against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I will vote for the candidate who will support liberty—regardless of his or her religion.
mormonISM is not Christian.
And not one person has said mormons can not practice their religion.
Not one person has said that they want an official state religion.
Either learn the Constitution and mormonISM or be quiet, it really appears you know nothing about either.”
That’s your opinion moron. You are basing your choice on something that the Constitution protects, which is freedom of religion for private and public citizens. You only want leaders to be Christian. Learn about Mormonism? He was already Gov. of Mass without governing as a Mormon, bigot.
Everything you say against Romney is in comparison to Christianity, and we don’t have a state run Christian nation.
We DO have a “Jim Robinson run Christian FR forum”....or hadn’t you noticed?”
Jim doesn’t mention Mitt’s Mormonism.
I will vote for the candidate who will support liberty—regardless of his or her religion.”
Me too
Get it through your own THICK SKULL, RomneyBot MORON anti-Christian BIGOT. The Constituion restricts GOVERNMENT NOT INDIVIDUALS!! Just another MORON ROMNEYBOT Big Government PROGRESSIVE BIGOT!!
Progressive Big Government mandate-loving Romney spits on your liberty!
This has been the same mantra since Reagan died. Will we never Learn? The lesser of two evils, nevertheless yields more evil.
It is easy to focus our displeasure on the current occupant of the White House, but we must recall that with the Presidency and both Houses in Republican hands we spent money like their was no end. We did not close the borders, In fact GW did his best to open the borders to Mexican trucking. Same with selling a port to the enemy. We did not drill Anwar, the EPA, FDA, DOE all went untouched. GW refused to pick up the Veto pen until it was already too late.
But he was better than Gore.
As that great philosopher once said, Pogo we have met the enemy, and he is us.
And if he declared himself to be a Muslim declared his allegiance to a some future Jihadist ayatollah? That would be ok then?
You really have absolutely no understanding of that which you are posting do you.
When you learn about mormonISM get back to me.
When you learn the Constitution get back to me.
I know when you learn reading comprehension get back to me.
Moron it is not unconstitutional for a state, but it is for the Fed. Most of the colonies had state religions when they formed the United States.
President Andrew Jackson on being told that the Supreme Court denied him the right to move the Indians said, "The Court has made their decision, now let them enforce it." he moved the Indians.
Nor read - a moron is a moron, a mormon is a mormon.
Facts. The states with the highest percent Mormons ALSO vote the highest percent conservative. (Utah, Idaho for example)
So Mormons are political allies, of conservatives.
Therefore this daily anti-Mormon theme/obsession, cannot logically be about political conservatism.
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