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To: RobinMasters

the lack of anti-aliasing in certain areas is all you need to determine it was a forgery. i say this as someone that has written scanner drivers and imaging software working with scanned images.

beyond this, even if you accept the document as real... all it proves is that 0bama is native born.

his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth, therefore he can only be native born

in order to be natural born, BOTH parents have to be US citizens at the time of birth. the founders put this language in the Constitution specifically to insure future presidents would not have loyalties to any other country due to parental allegiances. if not for this reason, the founders could have just used the word ‘citizen’.

as for the fake, if you haven’t seen this, you should:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

if 0bama queues up for the 2012 election, both the authenticity of the documents and his native born status should be issues to getting on the ballot


9 posted on 10/19/2011 4:07:18 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
his father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth, therefore he can only be native born

The more who understand what you've said Sten, the more members of both parties will have to explain, since many attornies and all senators knew the truth (all senators signed SR511 in April 2008). It seems likely that forgeries of documents were a deliberate strategy to create an easy to understand misdirection so that those interested wouldn't unravel the fact that Minor v. Happersett did what the supreme court is supposed to do, it turned common law into positive law. It established as undoubted legal precedence, eliminating the need to examine the common law, “...the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar.” - born on US soil of citizen parents.

Reading Minor v. Happersett will convince most - read it a few times. But the scrubbing of citations on public legal reference sites owned by Obama friends, and former classmates, to Minor v. Happersett in the fall of 2008 is convincing evidence that Barack’s cadre have used the Chester Arthur ploy. Arthur had an associate (described by the left, dishonestly, as a political opponent, Arthur Hinman) write a book pointing to Chester's possible birth in Canada or Ireland. Chester Arthur, born, as was Barack, to a British subject father, hid his real birth documents (he was born in Vermont) and had them burned just before his death.

For a wonderful example of misdirection read the “Wikipedia” biography of Arthur, which carefully avoids mention of the naturalization of Arthur's father, and suggests that political writer Arthur Hinman was hired by the opposition. The Wiki authors also throw in “native-born citizen of the US,” which both Arthur and Obama satisfy, having been born 14th Amendment citizens, native-born citizesn, who are not natural born citizesn. Even Chester's supreme court appointee, Wong Kim Ark's Horace Gray, cited Minor v. Happersett for the definition of natural born citizen. He had to. It was precedence. And Gray made Wong Kim a citizen, since his case rested upon the 14th Amendment, which never mentions natural born citizens.

Read an analysis of Minor v. Happersett, as well as the examples of the scrubbed supreme court documents at Leo Donofrio’s “naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com”.

14 posted on 10/19/2011 5:08:18 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: sten
Hence my conclusion (among other reasoning and proof) that it is legitimate: no forger would produce a document as proof of eligibility which proved ineligibility.
26 posted on 10/20/2011 8:25:41 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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