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EconomistWho Helped Cain Craft 9-9-9 Plan Backs Away From Sales Tax
Fox News ^ | 10-19-11 | Judson Berger

Posted on 10/19/2011 1:28:14 PM PDT by sklar

One of the key economists who helped presidential candidate Herman Cain draft his 9-9-9 tax plan is backing away from the most controversial component of it, warning that the criticism Cain endured at Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate shows his proposed 9 percent national sales tax might have to go.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/19/adviser-backs-away-from-cains-sales-tax-plan-as-candidate-endures-barrage/?intcmp=related#ixzz1bGFsELKO

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 999; cain; hermancain; tax
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1 posted on 10/19/2011 1:28:17 PM PDT by sklar
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To: sklar

He still thinks it’s a great idea, he’s just not sure it can be accomplished politically.


2 posted on 10/19/2011 1:31:50 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: sklar

Old news. He stated he was surprised by the resistance to the sales tax. Offered up a payroll tax as alternative. Still thinks 8% sales tax would be like “rocket fuel” to the economy.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 1:31:50 PM PDT by offduty ("There are stupid people running this country" Herman Cain CPAC 2011)
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To: sklar

Old news. He stated he was surprised by the resistance to the sales tax. Offered up a payroll tax as alternative. Still thinks 9% sales tax would be like “rocket fuel” to the economy.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 1:32:18 PM PDT by offduty ("There are stupid people running this country" Herman Cain CPAC 2011)
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To: sklar

aready posted


5 posted on 10/19/2011 1:33:39 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: sklar

The 9-9-9 plan is not simple enough for today’s sound bite world.

Flat income tax, say 10%.. EVERYONE pays it.

deduction of 10,000 for head of household, 5000 for each dependent.

Nothing else. No other deductions. No cap gains, no corp tax, no national sales tax.

Just think, the 1040 would be.

How much do you make? 50,000
deduct 10,000 for yourself 40,000
Dependents? (3 in my case) 25,000
Multiply by .10 2500.00

Send check to “department of the treasury”
Simple and easy. fits in a 30 second bite.

Also in this new tax plan I would require a super majority in BOTH houses to pass a increase in the rate along with requiring a presidential signature to raise it. This bill would also limit government spending to actual tax collections. No more spending on the visa card.

This will NEVER happen however. Washington won’t be able to social engineer with it. And tax lawyers would be put out of business.

Nice side effect would be those god awful tax master ads would stop on the radio.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 1:38:05 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
aready posted

I searched before posting and found nothing. Could you show me the link please? Thanks.

7 posted on 10/19/2011 1:38:41 PM PDT by sklar
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To: sklar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795095/posts


8 posted on 10/19/2011 1:40:33 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: cableguymn
deduction of 10,000 for head of household, 5000 for each dependent.

Could you show us where Cain says (or his website states) that those deductions are part of 9-9-9? Thanks!

9 posted on 10/19/2011 1:41:42 PM PDT by sklar
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To: sklar
Walking in the weeds, changing the system and putting the IRS out of business is the goal. Go Herman.
10 posted on 10/19/2011 1:43:33 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

Too bad the media didn’t scrutinize “hope and change” with rubber gloves and a flashlight like they’re doing to 9/9/9.


11 posted on 10/19/2011 1:48:29 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: sklar

duplicate - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795095/posts


12 posted on 10/19/2011 1:49:49 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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Cain’s Stimulating 9-9-9- Plan (Laffer)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204346104576637310315367804.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Why I Support Herman Cain For President (Charles Kadlec joins Cain’s economic team)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795074/posts

Reagan Economist Breaks Down 999 Plan
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1217420754001/reagan-economist-breaks-down-999-planReagan

Backing for Cain’s plan also came from Kevin Hassett, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute also praised the Cain’s proposal for moving towards a flat tax. “If someone’s going to attack the 9-9-9 plan, I would say they should be careful because you are talking about the Republican holy grail,” he told the Associated Press.
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Cain-999-tax-plan/2011/10/14/id/414487

Rich Lowrie Discusses Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 Plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iKkDcDmf7I

Paul Ryan Likes Cain’s Plan
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46850

Dick Morris Defends 999
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuikrVmN6Yo&feature=feedu

How is Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 Plan Good for America
https://sites.google.com/site/giveemcain/home

Club for Growth defends Herman Cain, 9-9-9 plan
Club for Growth President Chris Chocola called the 9-9-9 “an outline for a more prosperous and globally competitive America,” saying it is “both pro-growth and a good starting point on the way to a flat or fair tax.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65967.html#ixzz1alhFr6NM

Can Herman Cain’s Plan work?
http://axdwhiteman.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102%3Acan-herman-cains-999-plan-work

Why We Need Herman Cain’s plan:
http://www.nerds4cain.com/Blog/archives/759

Office of Tax Analysis for the U.S. Treasury Gary Robbins analyzed and scored his plan. Cain said the analysis shows that his plan will “initially create 6 million jobs and that it will bring the unemployment rate down initially to about half of what it is today.”
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/09/22/fox-first-cain-reveals-his-economic-secret-kitchen-cabinet#ixzz1aaTbfWLN

What do these numbers mean for me?
http://www.nerds4cain.com/Blog/archives/723

53% of People Favor Tax Code that Treats Taxpayers Equally
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/taxes/october_2011/53_favor_tax_code_that_treats_all_taxpayers_equally

Embedded taxes
http://www.ipi.org/ipi%5CIPIPublications.nsf/0/3F31DF6F0D040EE986256AB700630B84/$File/PR160-HiddenTax-FINAL.pdf?OpenElement
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Calculators:
Income: http://raisingcain2012.wordpress.com/about/
Sales Tax: http://www.999calculator.net

Chart comparing 999 with VAT tax: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302179_572458911298_70702418_32155573_1088285190_n.jpg


13 posted on 10/19/2011 1:51:12 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: sklar

The sad part that’s being glossed over is that any plan where the government doesn’t “harvest” the same or more cash-ola will never fly. The politicians on both sides are simply too addicted to money.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 1:52:01 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: cableguymn

first off why should one get 10000 deduction for head of housel=hold? and where do you get the tax rate of 10%

in 2005 similar was proposed with rate of 17%

IRS is Still around and so are tax atorneys, however less of them. This does nothing to collect taxes from the underground economy.

http://www.freedomworks.org/issues/flat-


15 posted on 10/19/2011 1:52:39 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sklar.
...warning that the criticism Cain endured at Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate shows his proposed 9 percent national sales tax might have to go.

16 posted on 10/19/2011 1:52:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sklar

Those are MY plan. Not his 9-9-9 plan.

It’s also not a set number. just a easy one for me to use to do the math in my head.


17 posted on 10/19/2011 1:52:54 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: freejohn

Thanks! I searched “Economist” & “9-9-9” — nothing.


18 posted on 10/19/2011 1:53:06 PM PDT by sklar
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To: rolling_stone

They are EXAMPLE numbers.


19 posted on 10/19/2011 1:54:04 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn
“They are EXAMPLE numbers.”

I agree except skip the exemption stuff. Just a flat rate. If you make $100 you pay $10 if you make 10 mil you pay 1 mil.

10% is the most we should ever pay in total taxation. I say we quit trying to figure a way to fund the government we have with tax schemes. I don't care how you do it, government at all levels is just to damn big. Just say we are only going to pay 10% in taxes to the feds, the state, the county or anybody else. THEN adjust the SIZE of the government to fit.

This can't be done thru elections and policy at the national level. It will need to be done with amendments called and ratified by a constitutional convention of the states.

20 posted on 10/19/2011 2:07:43 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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