Clerk at Del’s 24 Hour shop shoots, kills would-be robber who grabbed child

Naples News ^ | 18 OCT 11 | By VICTORIA MACCHI

[taxcontrol]

Could be a huge loss of blood as the femeral artery runs down to the knee.

[taxcontrol]

Could be a huge loss of blood as the femoral artery runs down to the knee.

[stevie_d_64]

Arteries are outbound from the heart...Pressure is greater...

Veinous flow is back to the heart and less pressure...

The girl hit an artery, and what they have said is true, you can bleed out from that just as easy as if she had shot the guy in the pelvic/groin/upper thigh area where the aorta splits into the two major thoroughfares into the legs...

As someone in an earlier thread stated that they hoped for “more” pain as they checked out...There would not be any additional pain as you bleed out, only the pain from the wound, if you keep moving it, all you’ll do is fade away as less oxygenated blood in your body passes into and through your brain to keep you conscious...

Takes about 3-4 minutes...Depending on the size and physical shape the bleeder is...

[j_tull]

The training was bad, of course, but if the scumbag had the one year old in his arms, shooting low was a good call.

[Lockbar]

And the moronic idiots at Brady think that sign is a BAD THING?????

[DCBryan1]

As someone in an earlier thread stated that they hoped for “more” pain as they checked out...

That was me and I didnt say that. I said, "Anyways, bonus points for a chick hitting the femoral artery and letting the perp bleed out OUTSIDE of the restaurant. I hope his last 2-3 minutes of conciousness while in excruciating pain, that he found Jesus and asked for forgiveness."

Getting shot HURTS (trust me)...getting shot in the knee REALLY HURTS. It was probably just incidental to him that there was ALOT of blood and that he was getting dizzy and sleepy.

Again: We should all hope that he found Christ in his last minutes. And we should all be glad he can no longer victimize the innocents.

[TigersEye]

He might have survived and only lost the lower leg. and sued the clerk and the store.

[DCBryan1]

Oh lookie here at this stellar pillar of "da community":

HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0210820MMA 10/14/2002 DISPOSED CRIMINAL TRAFFIC
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0402988CFA 10/06/2004 DUE FELONY
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0408149MMA 05/28/2004 DISPOSED CRIMINAL TRAFFIC
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0411335MMA 08/02/2004 DUE CRIMINAL TRAFFIC
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 1979 0427514TB-C 05/26/2004 DISPOSED TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0502088CFA 05/31/2005 DUE FELONY
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0504459CT 05/31/2005 DISPOSED CRIMINAL TRAFFIC
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0602157MMA 06/15/2006 DISPOSED MISDEMEANOR
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0602164MMA 06/15/2006 DISPOSED MISDEMEANOR HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 0
5/16/1979 0602196MMA 06/15/2006 DISPOSED
MISDEMEANOR HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0602202MMA 06/15/2006 DUE MISDEMEANOR
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0603236MMA 08/28/2006 DUE MISDEMEANOR
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0700522MMA 02/07/2007 DISPOSED MISDEMEANOR
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0902772CFA 11/24/2009 DUE FELONY
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0902840CFA 12/02/2009 DISPOSED FELONY
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 0903834MMA 12/02/2009 DUE MISDEMEANOR
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 1979 0947617TR 12/03/2009 DISPOSED TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 1102136CFA 10/12/2011 PENDING FELONY
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 1102464MMA 08/29/2011 DUE MISDEMEANOR
HERNANDEZ, DANIEL RAMONT DEFENDANT 05/16/1979 1102672MMA 09/21/2011 DISPOSED MISDEMEANOR

Keep in mind, this is only in ONE county in FL. He came from TN, where he has more records of arrests.

[xander]

Hmmm, he doesn’t look white. Perhaps the typist needs to have more lessons.

[Ramius]

Good grief. For being a career criminal he sure wasn’t very good at it.

[TigersEye]

And the moronic idiots at Brady think that sign is a BAD THING?????

That's what I was thinking. Until I noticed the attribution I was thinking it was a pro-gun group that sponsored it. lol

[Ramius]

do NOT talk to police or reporters unless/until you’ve talked to your lawyer and said lawyer is WITH you.

Good advice, but I would add that it is ~really~ hard to do. In the aftermath of a crisis when things suddenly go from frantic to quiet, and you're coming down off an insane adrenaline surge, the urge to talk it out with somebody -anybody- is overpowering. You get the shakes from the adrenaline, and your mind is racing as it tries to make sense of what probably only lasted a few moments. Talking is part of how the brain processes the chaos and make an orderly record of what you've just been through. Again... excellent advice, but it's important to realize that people often just can't shut up, even when they know better.

[OldMissileer]

The crime reports used, approved by the DOJ, does not have a listing for south of the border types. They must be listed as White. That way the Government can inflate the numbers for white crime to help mask the problem of who really creates the most havoc in this country.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

“The article never mentioned if the robber was armed.

No....but he was “legged”. :) “

Post of the day!

[WOBBLY BOB]

As Ron White says: “I had the right to remain silent, just not the ability.”

[WOBBLY BOB]

also,officers are trained to solicit info from people in this situation by pretending to be their advocate/buddy/pal.

on the flip side, officers involved in shootings are typically afforded 24-48 hours of paid time off BEFORE having to answer questions from internal affairs.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

God forgive me, but I am glad this mutha is dead.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

The article never mentioned if the robber was armed.

Touch the chillin, and all bets are off, I'm opening up on full auto and I'm gonna keep shoutin' till I'm outta ammo.

[Ramius]

LOL... Quite.

[Jeff Winston]

The following gives a completely different account of what happened. Apparently she didn’t shoot him while he was making off with the child, she shot him in the leg when he came behind the counter after her.

Then when she ran outside to get help, he grabbed the 1-year-old and attempted to make off with the baby, then gave up and attempted to leave. At that point he was tackled and probably lost a lot of blood. He appears to have died after reaching the hospital.

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2011/10/19/1684803/clerk-kills-would-be-robber-who.html

“A convenience store manager grabbed a gun from under the counter and shot a would-be robber in the knee before the man scooped up the clerk’s infant daughter and tried to flee, sheriff’s deputies said Wednesday.”

“Daniel Ramont Hernandez, 32, died at hospital after the Tuesday afternoon shooting at Del’s 24-Hour Food Store in Naples, according to the Collier County Sheriff’s Office. The child wasn’t hurt.”

“Hernandez came in store acting erratically, causing 22-year-old manager Elizabeth Easterly to be worried for her safety, according to the sheriff’s office. When Hernandez came around to her side of the counter, she grabbed a gun and shot him once in the leg.”