Posted on 10/18/2011 10:58:48 PM PDT by Shalmaneser
All you have to do is look at the employees walking in the door of any company which requires “knowledge workers”, or sitting in the classrooms of any public university, to know that this is about “class”, not “race”.
In our desire to avail ourselves of low-cost labor we “imported” several tens of millions of poorly educated, often non-English speaking people, often from rural communities where they lived under conditions of semi-feudal political corruption and racism, and it’s this background - not the color of their skin, that’s the source of “our problems”.
If you are thinking of abortion, "white" Americans have a substantially lower abortion rate that blacks or Hispanics (13/48/23 per 1000 women, respectively); if abortion was entirely eliminated the effect would be to increase the relative proportion of "non-white" Americans.
Well please keep me in that loop ‘cause I’d sure like to know about it.
I hear ya truthguy and I am a believer.
I have LONG maintained that America is two Nations masquerading as one. And, heresy for this Conservative it may be, but I see the United States splitting in two. I just don’t see any way around it. Neither side will be able to impose its will on the other, as it were.
As old as I am, I am not sure it will happen in my lifetime, but it sure is going to happen sooner than later. I mean, c’mon, who here really thinks there is going to be some kind of grand reconciliation. America has grown further apart, not closer together.
When it happens, just put me in the conservative section please.
Bttt
Exactly. The governments know full well that you get what you pay for, and they have been stealing money from the producers for a long time in order to subsidise the scroungers, and to make it profitable for them to breed while making it unprofitable/difficult for the producers to have families. But as with everything they do, the “unintended” consequences” are coming home to roost. Parasites will outnumber the producers.
You are right on the asians and yellow race. As for the white race ...do you remember when the white farmers were murdered in Africa? now they are starving..go figure
You and your brothers and sisters use the pill?
(1) Congress restricted citizenship to “free white persons” - not just one time, but several times in the 18C and 19C to keep out foreigners who were not white.
The ideal of the Founders was to allow Europeans who sympathized with the republican principles of America to immigrate to the United States.
(2) In the immediate aftermath of the Revolution, free blacks (a small fraction of the population) could vote in several Southern states (Kentucky and North Carolina, I believe), but this was reversed not long thereafter.
(3) Women also had the right to vote in New Jersey.
(4) The Founders didn’t ban gay marriage either. It was a thought that simply never occurred to them.
(5) You are correct that blacks were considered citizens of states like Massachusetts in New England, but their citizenship status wasn’t recognized by the other states, who didn’t consider blacks to be Americans.
(6) The Dred Scott decision:
“On the contrary, they were at that time considered as a subordinate and inferior class of beings, who had been subjugated by the dominant race, and, whether emancipated or not, yet remained subject to their authority, and had no rights or privileges but such as those who held the power and the Government might choose to grant them. . . .
It is true, every person, and every class and description of persons, who were at the time of the adoption of the Constitution recognized as citizens in the several States, became also citizens of this new political body; but none other; it was formed by them, and for them and their posterity, but for no one else . . .
They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery. . . . He was bought and sold, and treated as an ordinary article of merchandise and traffic, whenever a profit could be made by it. This opinion was at that time fixed and universal in the civilized portion of the white race. It was regarded as an axiom in morals as well as in politics, which no one thought of disputing, or supposed to be open to dispute; and men in every grade and position in society daily and habitually acted upon it in their private pursuits, as well as in matters of public concern, without doubting for a moment the correctness of this opinion. . . .
Another of the early laws of which we have spoken, is the first militia law, which was passed in 1792, at the first session of the second Congress. The language of this law is equally plain and significant.... It directs that every “free able-bodied white male citizen” shall be enrolled in the militia. The word white is evidently used to exclude the African race, and the word citizen to exclude unnaturalized foreigners; the latter forming no part of the sovereignty, owing it no allegiance, and therefore under no obligation to defend it. The African race, however, born in the country, did owe allegiance to the Government, whether they were slave or free; but it is repudiated, and rejected from the duties and obligations of citizenship in marked language.
The third act to which we have alluded is even still more decisive; it was passed as late as 1813, (2 Stat., 809) and it provides: “That from and after the termination of the war in which the United States are now engaged with Great Britain, it shall not be lawful to employ, on board of any public or private vessels of the United States, any person or persons except citizens of the United States, or persons of color, natives of the United States.”
Here the line of distinction is drawn in express words. Persons of color, in the judgment of Congress, were not included in the word citizens, and they are described as another and different class of persons, and authorized to be employed, if born in the United States..”
America is anywhere from 9 to 11 nations. Check out this excellent new book:
http://www.colinwoodard.com/americannations
Long live Dixie!
I am not quite sure why you quote the evil and immoral Dred Scott decision at length. Do you perhaps agree with it?
Two honorable justices issued dissenting opinions that were far more in line with the legal and historical facts and based on better legal reasoning. The decision was indeed overturned, though at by far the greatest cost of any reversed court decision.
The Dred Scott decision is a classic example of an attempt by a Supreme Court to settle a difficult political issue by putting it beyond the realm of politics. As with the other most egregious example, Roe v Wade, it had exactly the opposite effect, galvanizing the opposition.
Oh sweet. Thanks for the link! Looks fascinating.
Patriotism and Euro-centric pride have already been outlawed here in fact if not by law. We have every symptom Britain has, except an American Defence League.
Prior to being elected Pope, Cardinal Ratzinger commented on European culture as follows (I’m paraphrasing): How could we mourn a culture which took such an active hand in its own demise?”
Todays politicians all cater to the Hispanic vote because they see it as increasing. But a patriotic white conservative presidential candidate can still win big if he caters to whites more and increases the number of whites voting for him
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