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To: dila813

What has he done that merits prison? Is he selling ‘shares’ in this, advance orders?

Just making fraudulent claims won’t send him to prison. He has to do something like sell shares or promise investors a piece of the profits (which is kind of like selling shares) but I think he would get more money that way but he could also end up like Ben Siegel and end up selling more than 100% of shares, yet another reason to send him to prison if that were to take place.

Taking suckers money isn’t in itself illegal, unethical to be sure. Joseph Newman’s been taking money for years and he’s still free to peddle his snake oil.

If I say I’ve developed a drug that cures all cancers, (do a web search, there’s more than one whack job claiming this), then no harm. If I then open a clinic and sell my cure, it’s off to prison.

That’s why a lot of these cancer scumbags and they are scumbags for selling false hope when they know they’re selling water operate out of Mexico. I know someone who was so desperate, he went down there and got the ‘treatment’ he’s dead, it didn’t give him an extra second of life.

For all I know, Rossi either, a) Believes his device works or b) His device does work or finally c) He believes his device will work, it just needs a little more work. Lots of inventors get so tied up they can’t accept the fact that all the time they’ve invested in their invention would have been put to better use taking a community college physics and chemistry course.

Just do a search on youtube for free energy. Lots of people claiming they have it. If I had it, I’d power my house with it and have experts evaluate it to make sure I’m not scamming. Once I proved it, I’d try to get a patent.

Unfortunately, Or possibly fortunately, the patent office won’t give you a patent for a perpetual motion machine or the new version of that, free energy or overunity. The point being, if I had such a world changing device or cancer cure or whatever, would you put it on youtube or get some serious backing like from a university like MIT or Caltech

The blacklight power guy is having his work evaluated by Rowen university. That doesn’t mean it works but at least he’s on the right path.

While I’m an somewhat an expert on electronics, I’m also a nobody, you wouldn’t want my endorsement, it would be useless, now you get a Stephen Hawking type on your side, then you get credibility and an expert who will say one way or the other whether the device is real.

Unless, and this has happened, the expert is blinded and doesn’t see the scam. Joseph Newman got over 40 ‘experts’ to sign off on his motor. One was Dr. Roger Hastings, he has a PhD and wrote a paper saying that Newman’s device was real. He has since recanted yet Newman still uses his endorsement. What people don’t realize is that in an A/C circuit, the current and voltage aren’t in sync, anyone remember eli the ice man?
This is why power factor is so important. If you apply the relatively simple DC circuit equations, it appears that the device makes more power than it takes. Bust out the vector math and you get the real efficiency and it’s always way below 100%.

This is what’s intriguing about Rossi’s device, he’s obviously not playing the power factor game using inductors or capacitors to skew the results unless he fudging the power draw of the heaters his device uses thereby proving over unity. How is he calculating how much energy he’s putting into this device to pre-heat it as well as the heater that is supposed to make the device more stable. I read he thought without the heating device, he was worried his device would run away from him to its destruction. Since his device supposedly produces heat, adding heat to stabilize it seems counter intuitive but I know nothing about this. It seems he could game the results by applying more heat energy than he says he’s applying but that would be found out pretty fast if he lets people examine it.

Man, am I getting paid by the word or what?????


284 posted on 10/21/2011 10:58:52 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
I have to read it later, but Rossi is doing is called a confidence scam using shills and come-ons.

A come-on is the refusing to take money so that the mark will beg for the con to take his money. Eventually the con will take the money with many conditions to eliminate pressure for him to produce results and to make the money difficult to trace.

286 posted on 10/21/2011 7:56:10 PM PDT by dila813
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