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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS saved by not paying “entitlements” (welfare, medical, food stamps, K-PhD education, etc.) to illegals wouldn’t pay for a fence many times over? You Perrywinkles slay me!!


7 posted on 10/18/2011 12:08:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gov Perry's stand against amnesty tracks pretty well with Marco Rubio's comments:

November 2009: Rubio: Reagan erred in supporting 1986 amnesty for illegal immigrants“If you grant amnesty, the message that you’re sending is that if you come in this country and stay here long enough, we will let you stay. And no one will ever come through the legal process if you do that.”

Rubio said the U.S. must first get control of its borders and its visa system, which often allows people to enter legally but remain after their visas expire.

“Only after you deal with illegal immigration in a serious way — seal the border and the visa problem — can you then create a legal immigration system that works. That still leaves you with 11 million people that are here illegally,” Rubio said.

While criticizing amnesty for those illegals, he also rejected the idea of a massive “police-state” roundup. He suggested requiring tamper-proof residency and guest-worker cards and fining employers who don’t verify that their workers are legal. That, Rubio said, would bring the 11 million figure down “dramatically by attrition.”

Asked later about about Reagan’s support for amnesty, Rubio said, “I think he did it for the right reasons, but I think it ended up working the wrong way.”

Rubio’s no-amnesty stance on illegal immigrants has drawn some criticism from immigration hard-liners who say Rubio didn’t advance the issue when he was House speaker and the collapse of federal immigration reform efforts led state legislators around the U.S. to propose a variety of state-level immigration measures."......

10 posted on 10/18/2011 12:10:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not about money. It’s not even about the issue of a fence. It’s about defending La Raza Rick Perry at any cost with the hope, remote as it may be, that they can resuscitated his train wreck of a campaign.


27 posted on 10/18/2011 12:26:21 AM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

So the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS saved by not paying “entitlements” (welfare, medical, food stamps, K-PhD education, etc.) to illegals wouldn’t pay for a fence many times over?
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absolutely correct.

and, Israel has shown it CAN be done, and it works very well. the # of attacks there has dropped 99% since they built it.

and if the PRO-ILLEGAL people here on FR, argue that Israel is too small an example, how about this?
...can India do something that WE AMERICANS cannot do, to secure our OWN border from invaders?:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2775711/posts

It Turns Out Some Borders *Are* Visible from Space
Universe today ^

In 2003, the Indian government sanctioned a proposal to fence and illuminate the border to prevent smuggling and arms trafficking. In total, the Indians plan to cover 2009 km of the 2900 km India-Pakistan border with floodlights. Officials have so far erected floodlights along 460 km of border in Punjab. The extensive floodlighting continues for 1,022 km across Rajasthan, 176 km across Jammu, and 202 km through Gujarat. So far 1,861 km of the border have been floodlit. Plans are in place to erect a total 2,043 km of fencing along the border. The Indian government hopes to complete the floodlight operation by March 2012. A similar fenced border zone operates along India’s eastern border with Bangladesh. http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/06/an-orange-line-of-fear-in-south-asia-seen-from-space.html


181 posted on 10/18/2011 6:36:09 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The solution is not to build a fence to keep illegals from draining our system by entitlements, the solution is stop giving entitlements to illegals. An Illegal is not Entitled. With no free money, there will be no freeloaders.

Our government is handing out entitlements because it wants the boarders overrun, precisely so you will ask them to fence you in. The Nazis always stirred up problems so that they could be given power over the “problem”.

Every illegal should spend time in a public works prison for the crime of tax evasion and the illegal use of public services. Then they should be deported with a set of papers to properly apply for citizenship. If caught illegally in the country again, they should be blacklisted from ever getting citizenship.

Illegal = UNentitled Its simple.


221 posted on 10/18/2011 1:10:55 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS saved by not paying “entitlements” (welfare, medical, food stamps, K-PhD education, etc.) to illegals wouldn’t pay for a fence many times over? You Perrywinkles slay me!!

You, me and millions of other concerned Americans as well. Only an Open Borders loving idiot could/would think otherwise.

247 posted on 10/18/2011 2:52:32 PM PDT by Ron H. (Conservatives have the Tea Party. The Liberals have the Pee Party.)
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